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[theweaselking]

The temperature of Heaven can be rather accurately computed. Our authority is Isaiah 30:26, "Moreover, the light of the Moon shall be as the light of the Sun and the light of the Sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days." Thus Heaven receives from the Moon as much radiation as we do from the Sun, and in addition 7 x 7 (49) times as much as the Earth does from the Sun, or 50 times in all.

The light we receive from the Moon is one 1/10,000 of the light we receive from the Sun, so we can ignore that.

The radiation falling on Heaven will heat it to the point where the heat lost by radiation is just equal to the heat received by radiation, i.e., Heaven loses 50 times as much heat as the Earth by radiation. Using the Stefan-Boltzmann law for radiation, (H/E)^4 = 50, where E is the absolute temperature of the earth (-300ºK), gives H as 798ºK (525ºC).

The exact temperature of Hell cannot be computed. However, Revelation 21:8 says "But the fearful, and unbelieving ... shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone." A lake of molten brimstone [sulphur] means that its temperature must be at or below its boiling point, 444.6ºC.

We have, then, that Heaven, at 525ºC is hotter than Hell at 445ºC.

Comments

[anivair.livejournal.com]

So it's always a cold day in hell?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Somehow, I doubt that 445 C could be considered cold.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

Wait, doesn't volume factor into this?

[anivair.livejournal.com]

hmm . .. I wonder if volume would refer to overall mass or to empty space? Because I've seen other evidence which leads me to believe that heaven is empty and that hell is overfull. Also cold.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure that overall empty space factors in, but it's been awhile since I've dealt with black body equations.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

In Genesis, God creates "Heaven and the Earth" - giving them equal weight, and hence equal size.

(Besides, it's based on Isaiah. That makes it bullshit of the sort eaten by creationists to begin with.)

[zenten.livejournal.com]

Wait, it says equal size, or just equal weight?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Equal *value*, not literal "Oh, my god, that's fucking heavy, now I sympathise with that Atlas fucker" weight.

God makes things that he likes more bigger. This is how the Pope's hat works.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

Ok, cool.

Hey, I just realized something. Couldn't this be used with the inverse square law to calculate heaven's position in the solar system, assuming that it's in our solar system?

[harper-knight.livejournal.com]

yes! not by me, of course. I could submit it to the guys on the Schock Mercenary forums and see what they have to say about it...

[anton-p-nym.livejournal.com]

Dead easy. It takes 7^2 as much insolation as us, therefor it must be 7 times as close. The square root of seven squared is "seven".

Therefor Heaven is 1/7 (0.14) AU from the Sun.

-- Steve notes that doesn't corellate too well with having the same influx from the Moon as Earth... maybe there's a parabolic reflector hidden on the far side somewhere or something.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I was going to say. The moon thing makes it impossible.

[anton-p-nym.livejournal.com]

We could also postulate a coherent beam of "moonlight" targeted directly at the Heaven-object in order to preserve the statement, but somehow I doubt that Fundies are going to be happy explaining Moonbeamasers to their flocks.

-- Steve can't remember how to derive orbital periods from radii... darn you to heck, Keppler, now we'll have to wait to figure out how long a year in Heaven is.

[ryusen.livejournal.com]

I am suddenly reminded of this: http://fig.cox.miami.edu/~cmallery/150/webstories/thermo_hell.htm

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

The same story is on that same page, just below the one I quoted.

[ryusen.livejournal.com]

oh damn... i should have read further .p

[zenten.livejournal.com]

I'm just wondering if it has it's own moon.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

You'd think God would have mentioned that to Isaiah.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

I was about to say something about looking at ancient hewbrew word meanings, and then I remembered we were talking about fundies.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

If English was good enough for Christ, it should be good enough for you.