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Windows XP: $100
Running IE7 through 5 years of development and 5 beta versions before releasing it: Billions of dollars and a full 15% of the browser market.
Finding a new critical security flaw less than 12 hours after its release: Priceless.


Some things, money can't buy. For everything else, there's Microsoft.

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Date: 2006-10-19 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
(Psst. its release. Other than that, choked on water laughing.)

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Date: 2006-10-19 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryusen.livejournal.com
It took 12 hours? i'm disapointed .p

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Date: 2006-10-19 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lots42.livejournal.com
"Also, even people using automatic updates will have to agree to let Microsoft check whether their copy of Windows is pirated before they can get IE7."

Is this actually going to WORK? Wow.

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Date: 2006-10-19 07:59 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
You mean, I just spent ages DLing it, and am about to shut all esle down before a restart, and its an insecure peice of shit?

Oh, wait, I already knew that one. I now know why as well.

Reading the article; does that mean that to run it after a 2 hour DL, I need to run Genuine Advantage as well? Anyway I can get it to work without installing that auto-dialling junk would be good. I know my copy is genuine, I don't need to tell Richmond on a daily basis thank you.

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Date: 2006-10-19 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Redmond.

But yes to all the rest.

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Date: 2006-10-19 08:12 pm (UTC)
matgb: Artwork of 19th century upper class anarchist, text: MatGB (Default)
From: [personal profile] matgb
Now where did I get Richmond from?

Probably too much US history on the brain...

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Date: 2006-10-19 08:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com
Seriously, I so called that.

Josh asked me last night if I wanted to download it.
I said "I'll wait 2 weeks",
"Why?" he asked.
"So they can release it, and then unscrupulous people will find security holes, abuse them, Microsoft will go 'Oh, crap!' and fix it, and in about 2 weeks everyone will have lost interest or fixed the mistakes and it'll be safe again."
"I use Linux"
"Shut up"

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Date: 2006-10-19 10:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drjamez.livejournal.com
I don't care that IE 7 has a vulnerability uncovered after just 12 hours of its release.

Those who install "point zero" released apps deserve what they get (SCREW BLEEDING EDGE ADOPTERS!). Wait for the first service pack, whether it is from Redmond or elsewhere. Sheesh.

(And I am a multiple MCSE holder and official Microsoft certification exam beta-tester!)

- James -

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Date: 2006-10-19 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drjamez.livejournal.com
So far, yes.

- James -

...who's got only legal Windows products at his home. Go figure. No fear here.

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Date: 2006-10-19 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] singingnettle.livejournal.com
This is why I no longer work there. It got past depressing and started being amusing. When you start being amused by your workplace's disasters, it's probably time to do something else.

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Date: 2006-10-20 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culfinriel.livejournal.com
You funny!

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Date: 2006-10-20 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Shouldn't the beta testing and all that be able to find this though? If microsoft can't give a reasonable guarantee of security (which you seem to be implying they can't), they shouldn't release the product.

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Date: 2006-10-20 01:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drjamez.livejournal.com
Actually, I'm implying that NO company can guarantee, 100%, that hackers won't figure out the faults or otherwise develop exploits.

Unix folk felt pretty secure until a 1988 worm. Oracle once advertised themselves as "unbreakable" but ended that ad campaign when they, in fact, were found to be breakable. Mac folk feel secure today but.. gasp... there is increasing activity on the hacker front. Go figure.

Hubris is my favorite emotion. Microsoft is not alone in this arena. If the criteria is that security means it is impossible to crack... then no one should be selling shit at all.

That's not realistic, no matter the company. Security depends on the end user, ultimately, regardless of the platform.

- James -

P.S. Microsoft *can* guarantee reasonable security, just as most other OS sellers. "Reasonable," of course, depends on users not visiting shady parts of the web. ;-)

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