In other news, water is wet and other galaxies are unfeasibly far to walk to.

[theweaselking]

My only comment on the "geeks, unbathed and stinking of desperation, really want to touch breasts and you're a bad person if you don't let them touch yours, you senseless subhuman breast-carrier unperson" issue is taken, directly, from the Head Loser himself.

"Unfortunately, I can't decry the process of "asking repeatedly," mainly because it's the only stimuli a lot of women respond to. Frankly, I think any woman who has to be begged fifteen times before she eventually accepts should be drug into the back alleyways and beaten, because her rampant need for a string of pleadings trains the wrong sort of men that no doesn't mean no. "

Come ON, people. The dude's the archetypical convention-goer. He's a Nice Guy(tm), just ask him and he'll tell you all about it. He's a Fan(tm), with everything that implies.

Did any of you seriously expect better?

EDIT: Added more of the quote, for context. Without the context, it could be (and was, at least once) read as "Women should be badgered because that's the only way some of them will say yes, and that's silly. Women who say no more than once should be raped", instead of the more accurate "Women should be badgered because that's the only way some of them will say yes, and that's silly. That attitude causes rapists, and so women with that attitude should be made to stop. Because men won't understand."

The attitude is still repugnant, but the repugnant message is clearer.

Comments

[psyco-path.livejournal.com]

No

I could add more, but even that is pointless.

[zarq.livejournal.com]

Nope.

Interesting, the comments on that post. Thanks for linking to it.

self-awareness: he's doin it rong

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Did any of you seriously expect better?

I always knew he was going to trip himself up with his own issues, but I didn't expect it to happen so spectacularly.

*points and laughs*

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

The post I'm linking is from *2005*.

If you go looking, you can find his "They're not rapists! They're enthusiasts!" post.

[hypatiasghost.livejournal.com]

*shudders* I actually defended, not him, but the spirit in which he claimed that the Open Source Boob Project was created in. ... blagh!

He's giving mustelids a bad name.

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Oh, I know. I've been part of the theferrett Train-Wreck Society for years. I saw that post when people where looking at it in shock the first time.

Re: He's giving mustelids a bad name.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I've known *of* him for years, but never bothered reading, because he's always struck me as just another unbathed fanboy.

Now I'm looking, and I keep wanting to say OH JOHN RINGO NO.

[kadath.livejournal.com]

I poke my head in occasionally to see if he's got any of his recurring failures to not be a ball of slime displayed prominently on the front page, but I wouldn't say I read him.

He claims to be so enlightened and feminist, but his real troglodytic opinions always come oozing around the sides. Which would be hilarious if people didn't inexplicably think he was some kind of guru.

[torrain.livejournal.com]

*boggles at the entry tags*

This is for real?

You know, the whole thing where he's saying that a quote which equates "dressing sexy" with "coming across as a whore" sums it all up for him is really... uhm... wow. There's just so much "people who want to be sexy are bad" and "people who try to be attractive are filthy teases" in that that... that...

*Wow.*

(Sorry, I'm being incoherent.)

And I want to give the little driplet a clue-by-four about the repeated begging he's decrying. Teaches men that no doesn't mean no? Asshole, anyone who asks fifteen times already thinks that no doesn't mean no!

(Has it not occurred to him that women may decide that it's better to say yes on the sixteenth question because no is not being accepted and it'll probably hurt less if you say yes rather than risk having your no brutally ignored? Because it feels less awful to be able to think that you made a bad decision than to that you were raped? Oh, no, wait, that requires thinking of women as people, rather than Mere Denying Guardians of the Sacred Poontang.)

Christ.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Well, for years was the guy who told you What Member Of The Enterprise Crew Are You? and what your purity test score was. Isn't it just totally natural to listen to Quiz uy about everything else?

[torrain.livejournal.com]

I read Home on the Strange, and I liked it. And I figured, okay, decent strip, funny, I think it's neat that he posts the scripts and talks about the creative process... You know. Cool. And I hit a couple of his posts talking about... well... posting, and he seemed coherent, made some good points (serif fonts, white-on-black text, and so forth).

But now. Yeesh.

I feel that I should go looking through his LJ to see how close he comes to saying "It's easier to date women who've already been taught that saying no doesn't work", or something. I'm not gonna, because I get the feeling that (1) there's a huge backlog of this kind of thing and (2) I'm not craving watching that kind of train wreck right now.

Pardon the incoherency. I'm just not used to seeing mouth-breathing trogs present their POVs so neatly--it rather startled me.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

He's set to allow other people to tag his entries.

This is useful - for example, if I wanted my entries tagged, I'd damn well not want to do it myself. I'd want anyone going through my back catalog to be able to tag the entry appropriately.

But, if you don't restrict it, there's no reason for anyone be be stuck tagging "appropriately"

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Someone whose comments I can't dig up right this second nailed him right between his beady little eyes: he does not think other people are actually people. They exist only in the context of his desires. He never manages to completely camouflage this.

He'll of course deny it until he's blue, but even in the denials (look at his horrid attempted-martyr "apology") the fact that he truly believes It's All About Him bleeds through.

[publius1.livejournal.com]

Hey, cool. I didn't even know you could tag others' entries, if they let you.

[missysedai.livejournal.com]

(Has it not occurred to him that women may decide that it's better to say yes on the sixteenth question because no is not being accepted and it'll probably hurt less if you say yes rather than risk having your no brutally ignored? Because it feels less awful to be able to think that you made a bad decision than to that you were raped? Oh, no, wait, that requires thinking of women as people, rather than Mere Denying Guardians of the Sacred Poontang.)

And yet, when that was explained to him - AND HIS WIFE - they just didn't get it.

And better...his wife is a LAWYER. Gods, I hope it's the sort of law that doesn't require her to go after human detritus and lock it up. She's all about victim blaming, just like he is. Talk about a match made in Hell.

[psyco-path.livejournal.com]

Depending on who you ask. Everyone is only in it for themselves. With varying degrees of intensity or admission to that fact.

Except for me. I'm special. Usually in the short bus way.

My response in his journal:

[elffin.livejournal.com]

"Frankly, I think any woman who has to be begged fifteen times before she eventually accepts should be drug into the back alleyways and beaten, because her rampant need for a string of pleadings trains the wrong sort of men that no doesn't mean no."

Goodbye, benefit of the doubt.

Read. My. Words. Very. Carefully.

Rape. Is. Never. In. Any. Way. Shape. Or. Form. Ever. Under. Any. Circumstances. Ever. Under. Any. Cultural. Condition. Ever. The. Victim's. Fault.

If that seems arse-clenchingly sincere, then I have made my intent clear.

You're being an apologetic. for. rapists.

{Dr. Perry Cox mode ON}

Listen up, Sheila. This is going to be the very last time You and I ever have this kind of little chat. If I ever see you approaching at a convention I and my wife are attending, you will learn to contemplate the consequences of your actions.

No means No. It does not mean "Keep asking me and maybe I'll say yes just so I can stop having to deal with you in public."

Advocating it is creepy, but advocating that women who have the gall to refuse your advances should be physically assaulted?

Wow. Just, Wow.

Stay away from me and mine.

{Dr. Perry Cox mode OFF}

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Well, there's your standard everyday selfishness, and then there's the complete inability to grasp that people have motivations and desires of their own. Guess which side of the spectrum Ferrett's closer to?

[elffin.livejournal.com]

nyagh.

WeaselKoenig's link to this post was just what was needed - I can no longer give him the benefit of the doubt.

So. very. skeeved.

[autobotsrollout.livejournal.com]

Seconded, and yipe.

[psyco-path.livejournal.com]

I'm going to guess the people=objects side. Which is really what is behind the theory of treating women (specifically their boobs because that's what is important about a woman) as objects...

You know, nevermind. I know I'm preaching to the choir here.

Moving on.

Ok, so I looked at his journal just well, just cause.


Bored one night, I took my modem for a spin, putting in the 3.5" sampler disc to load the CompuServe forum software. I hopped online, went to the chat rooms, and found the Star Wars forum. And suddenly, I was home.

The first argument I got into was an extensive debate on how dumb the trench run in the first movie was, because why the hell did they take this suicidally long path down the heavily-defended center of the equator, spending twenty minutes flying through a killing tube of death? As I'd always thought, someone was arguing that they could have skimmed in five hundred yards away from the exhaust port, unloaded in a jiffy, and jetted off home.

It was dumb arguments like this that saved me.

So "fun" while bored is getting in arguments over star wars tactics and (probably) physics.

Re: My response in his journal:

[psyco-path.livejournal.com]

/signed

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Hey! I do that for fun, too!

I just managed to get properly socialized somewhere along the line.

[psyco-path.livejournal.com]

Star wars physics....


For reals?

[cpt-babypants.livejournal.com]

I have no idea who this guy is, but I know his type. My parents were Trekkies and took me to Sci Fi conventions from the time I was 12. This is the kind of guy who would shamelessly hit on me at the age of 14 when he was at least in his thirties.

It was icky, but I have developed awesome creepy predator radar.

I really don't know what's more bothersome; the fact that he said it or the fact that not many people really appear to be calling him out on it.