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[theweaselking]

Stupid, real ad:


Better:


Best:


Here's a blank, make your own and post it HERE

Comments

[glitteringlynx.livejournal.com]

LOL


Niice... I will have to think of something. :)

[flemco.livejournal.com]

Well, since you asked so nicely...

[hel]

....Is it an ad for condoms or guns? Cos they both have pros and cons. I'm confused.
Edit-ooo, for guns, I see.

[geminiknight.livejournal.com]

I don't see how the original ad is stupid personally. Out of those 3 items, assuming the daughter knew how to use each one properly, the pistol obviously offers more protection from a rapist, with or without AIDS.

The photoshopped stuff is amusing though.

[kindofstrange.livejournal.com]

I'm with you there.

[sparkindarkness.livejournal.com]

How about:
"Your daughter"
"The bar she's just had a skinful in"
"Which of these items is she most likely to kill herself with while three sheets to the wind?"

:)

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

It's stupid for the same reason that "what if the terra-ists have a nuke and it will go off in an hour and you only have that much time to find the location, huh, would you torture the civilians THEN?" is stupid.

[rosethornn.livejournal.com]

Don't most rapists use date-rape drugs nowadays?

Surely the gun would be *more* dangerous in that case.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Mix it up, post it on ninjaguydan's journal!

[geminiknight.livejournal.com]

Huh? I don't follow.

What does carrying a gun for protection have to do with trying to justify torturing someone?

[geminiknight.livejournal.com]

No clue how the kids are doing it these days. I'd think that date-rape drugs have got to be easier than brute force, but I dunno.

I don't think somebody under a roofie would be able to dig out their pistol anywho.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

The argument "she needs a pistol to save herself from the rapist with AIDS who is right next to her when the cop is a mile away" is EXACTLY the same as "what if the terra-ists have a nuke and it will go off in an hour and you only have that much time to find the location, huh, would you torture the civilians THEN?"

It's creating a scenario that leaves only one right answer, regardless of how likely the scenario is or how many other ways there are to avoid getting there in the first place.

[geminiknight.livejournal.com]

Ah... so it's a rigged question. Do you really expect any ad to not try to get you to buy the product?

If it was a car alarm commercial where a vehicle gets broken into and driven away, with a tagline of "Truck Monkey could have prevented this", you could argue about how there are other way to avoid having your car stolen. But it's still eye catching and makes people think about reasons they might want a gun, so it does what it's supposed to.

[rosethornn.livejournal.com]

That's true. I meant that it would effectively give the rapist a gun, though.

[quotation.livejournal.com]

I'd like to call shenannigans on this being a "real" ad. I don't think a "real" publication would carry an ad that contains such obvious copyright watermarking.

[peristaltor.livejournal.com]

Isn't that Trunk Monkey?

They seem far more useful that either guns or condoms, I must say.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Most rapists rape people they know...like their girlfriends and wives.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Well it's on a website with a slew of other ads for folks owning guns.

Here: http://www.olegvolk.net/gallery/technology/arms/?g2_page=4

[aimisdirty.livejournal.com]

Something bad happening with no police officers in a position to respond to prevent it, is actually a very likely scenario. When you consider how many dirtbags in Canadian society have Hep C, HIV, etc - I wouldn't want to roll the dice and do what the police always suggest: Cooperate with your attacker.

Also, the defensive use of firearms saves lives on a regular basis. Just ask a police officer.

[quotation.livejournal.com]

Those are not ads unles a publication accepts to print them in exchange for money.

They're just pictures.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

That's a very narrow definition of an advertisement.

[quotation.livejournal.com]

Narrow, but accurate.

See, if these were real advertisements, then I'd be able to complain to the carrying publications and their relevant standards bodies. Google and TeleAtlas would have actionable claims for copyright infringement, if not defamation.

But they're not advertisements. They're comment, parody, and fair use.

[quotation.livejournal.com]

And since they're fair use, though I disagree with them, I will defend to the death their right to be stupid and somesuch.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Actually whether or not that definition is accurate depends on who you ask.

Broadly speaking, advertising is the promotion of a brand, product, service, or store. Being published, printed, or paid for are not prerequisites for something to be considered an advertisement.

As these pictures are promoting gun use, they could qualify as advertisements.

Where did your comment about Fair Use and defending their right to be stupid come from? I don't recall bringing up either of those issues.

[quotation.livejournal.com]

If the stupid had been in advertising, I could have fought against the stupid.

Since the stupid wasn't in advertising, I will fight for the stupid.

[rimrunner.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't want to roll the dice and do what the police always suggest: Cooperate with your attacker.

Do they really say that? Most cops I know say to fight like hell. (Admittedly, they've said this to me in social situations. This may not be the official line.)

[aimisdirty.livejournal.com]

The official line (at least in Canada) is to cooperate with your attacker. I work with several police officers, and the unofficial line involves the untimely demise of anyone foolish enough to assault you.