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[theweaselking]

Arizona's "poor people and darkies shouldn't get to vote" voter ID laws have swept up a 97-year-old woman.

She hasn't had a driver's license in decades, she never had a passport, and she was born in Kentucky before that state started issuing birth certificates. She can't get a "delayed" birth certificate without witnesses - and everyone who qualified has been dead for decades. She's voted in the last 19 Presidential elections, women gained the right to vote at all during her lifetime, but the new poll tax laws have finally made it impossible again for her.

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[hypatiasghost.livejournal.com]

Not Kentucky's; Arizona's laws. I voted against this and worked to encourage those around me to vote against it. It's easy to get shit like this passed in Arizona because of the oh-so-socially-acceptable racism we like to call "Border Security."

[theamaranth.livejournal.com]

this is completely insane.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I'm half-blind, sometimes.

[glitteringlynx.livejournal.com]

That's nuts. Esp since she's still of right enough mind to vote. My grandmother is 94 but she's way too confused to vote anyway. She wouldn't be able to tell you who the current Prime Minister is. I think the last time we asked her, she said "Trudeau, isn't it?"

:/

[publius1.livejournal.com]

Hell, I bet a lot of Americans would still be saying "Brian Mulroney, right?"

[glitteringlynx.livejournal.com]

Either that or Chrétien, since he was the PM for like 10 years.

[hypatiasghost.livejournal.com]

Oh, I thought Canada just had the queen and stuff. Y'all have governments up there? Isn't it cold for lawmaking?

*cheeky*

[rsuddeth.livejournal.com]

Ugh, I remember that stuff going on...
http://rsuddeth.livejournal.com/14400.html

[athelind.livejournal.com]

Yup. Arizona was admitted to the Union in 1912.

[heraldofchaos.livejournal.com]

were rules by the queens representative the beaver, you should come up and visit, its almost wallpaper drying day.

[mcpino.livejournal.com]

She's voted in the last 19 Presidential elections ...

Wouldn't the Registrar of Voters have her info?

This is bullshit. They're probably a-scared she'll vote Democrat.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Having voted before does not allow her to vote this time.

She has no papers, and she cannot get papers without papers.

Without papers, despite being registered, she cannot vote.

And they're not scared of her. She's elderly and white - she's not likely to vote Democrat, statistically. She's collateral damage.

Despite there being zero in-person fraudulent votes EVER recorded and prosecuted, they're "fixing" that problem in a way that denies the vote to twenty million Americans, because those thirteen million Americans are poor and black and latino.

Assuming those people can get a day off work to go to the DMV and argue, they can spend a pile of money they don't have so they can get ID that will only let them vote, nothing else. And of those twenty million, thirteen million lack the documents necessary to get the documents necessary to vote.

And why has this law passed? Because Republicans don't want poor people and minorities to vote at all - because poor people and minorities don't vote Republican, since Republicanism is entirely about fucking the poor and the minorities in favour of rich white men.

And they're CLAIMING that this is to ensure the safety of the elections so they can get around the 14th Amendment prohibitions on *doing what they're doing*, which is setting an expensive, inconvenient barrier to voting for poor peopl.

[sola.livejournal.com]

Pwnd. Someone should bring that up.

[mcpino.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I knew there was more to it.

I was just being pissed/pissy.

More horseshit that screws the good people, and rewards those that have the funds to circumvent it.

[kafziel.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but she was born in Kentucky, which was a state at the time.

[goaltender.livejournal.com]

No, this law was passed by voters who are tired of watching Democrats cheat to win by registering illegal aliens.

Why don't we ask the voters in Michigan and Florida which party screws the poor and minorities?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

#1: Of course, because illegal aliens have nothing better to do than commit completely traceable felonies.

#2: And even if the illegal immigrant was registered, THIS WOULD NOT STOP THEM FROM VOTING. They're registered, they show ID, they can vote - unless you want to argue that illegals can't afford ID, in which case you've just admitted outright that this is a POLL TAX, and, since it also affects legal people who can't afford or can't obtain ID, it's unconstitutional.

See the bit in the comment you're replying to, where I said there has never been even a single case of a fraudulent vote that this procedure would prevent having EVER been recorded and prosecuted?

I really do believe that to be true.

Can you find me just one case? You're saying that "Democrats cheat to win by registering illegal aliens", so back it up. Show me ONE CASE where a voter's been arrested and convicted as part of any organised scheme.

In the mean time, I will show you TWENTY MILLION legal Americans who can't vote if this was law across the US, and I will show you THIRTEEN MILLION legal Americans who cannot get the paperwork necessary even if they could pay the fees and take the time off work to do it.

So, in pursuit of solving a problem THAT DOES NOT EXIST, you've just disenfranchised TWENTY MILLION PEOPLE.
And those people? Are mostly poor, and minorities. And, since they're mostly not stupid, they tend to vote against the Republicans. And who's passing the law to prevent them from voting? Republicans. And who's got a century of history of trying to keep poor people and minorities from voting, through *exactly this method*? The people who are today's Republicans.

Just because you're terrified of people who aren't white doesn't mean they're out to get you. History shows that you *are* out to get *them*, however.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

We should ask Michigan and Florida themselves, since they set up the primaries they knew were outside the bounds of the system, then acted all surprised when they were told their primaries didn't count and begged for money because they were too poor to do a revote. That issue has nothing to do with the party itself.