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Date: 2008-09-22 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] botia.livejournal.com
Username is spelled wrong in the lj user = link.

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Date: 2008-09-22 11:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You're right!

Thanks.

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Date: 2008-09-22 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
ooooohhh...I always like reading more about privilege.

Thank you for the link to the journal.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
Enlightening, humbling and moreover well written. Thanks for the link.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] botia.livejournal.com
np :) I just wanted to make sure you knew so you could fix it!

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Interesting, but based on having been from a truely impoverished neighborhood, I can argue first hand against the writers claims for low income whites. At the minimum, it may vary by area, but in our area there are more programs to help Black low income families then white. More college scholorship options, the chance to go to nearly any school in town (when I grew up, they have changed that program now so that the single newest, most challenging school is in the primarily black area) and the waiting list for government aid was graded based on race first, then income. They had to serve a set number of black families before white families. Even now, if you accept governemt payment for childcare for welfare families you MUST have a set percent of noncaucasion children in your care.

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Date: 2008-09-23 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
Yes, the measures put into place to combat white privilege are proof that white privilege doesn't exist among poor white people. Do go on.

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Date: 2008-09-23 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
is all this written down somewhere (clause 2.3: we must help black people before helping white people) or is this just hearsay because it sounds a hell of a like the latter to me (I didn't get what I want so one of those black people must have taken it from me).

It goes without saying that the latter opinion, dripping with entitlement as it is, is also a part of white privilege.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
It is what the social workers told my husband and I, when we applied for help, and what I was told by the health department when I started the process to begin a day care a few years later.
Edited Date: 2008-09-23 01:15 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
How is it not a seperate privledge, to give one a chance another has? I fail to see how combating one form of discrimination should lead to another form. There is no privilege to being so poor you don't know when you will eat more then commodities or church hand outs. It does not matter what race you are, once things have gotten that bad, race does not help you get back out. Poor white trash are as looked down on as blacks.

I am not denying that "white Privledge" exists at the upper end. I am questioning the way it is handled at the bottom.

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Date: 2008-09-23 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
I'm typing with my thumb so I can't do the long response your comment deserves but there's no point in comparing discriminations. none.

class privilege sucks. white privilege sucks. able bodied privilege sucks. hetero privilege sucks and so on.

attempting a contest of which discrimination is worse is not only impossible to win but also detracts from what should be the goal of any anti-ism activist...namely getting rid of all discrimination.

finally I disagree with your assertion that race somehow stops mattering if you're poor; there's a concept called intersectionality which names what people who belong to multiple minority categories have known for a long time...basically that oppressions are not discrete but intersect, overlap, and support each other putting people who exist at the intersections in much worse positions than people who do not (for example, being poor tends to be worse for women than for men and worse still for women of color).

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