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Dead Man Walking: John McCain claims to have beaten Stage II malignant melanoma with surgery to his skin and lymph nodes. Problem: If it involves the lymph nodes, IT IS STAGE III OR HIGHER, BY DEFINITION.

And he won't release his 1000+ page medical record, which
A) is far larger than most medical records
and
B) is abnormal for Presidential candidates.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
Now I wonder what would occur should he be hospitalized or die before the election.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosethornn.livejournal.com
Much rejoicing?

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
The possibility of a Huckabee/Palin ticket is a bit worrisome, though. Since Palin's the confirmed VP nominee, and Huckabee had the second-most delegates ...

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzdemonique.livejournal.com
we might learn that the republican party is keeping him alive just long enough to get elected and let him drop after swearing in. then we have 4 years of palin to survive...

you'll have new neighbors if this starts actually happening, by the way

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Are you kidding?

The Base[1] *hate* McCain. The only reason he's remotely competitive is the idea that he will die in office and let One Of Their Own take charge.

[1] For bonus points, translate that into Arabic.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvergwyn.livejournal.com
Can you impeach someone for being stupid? And if so...why did we not impeach the last one????

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosethornn.livejournal.com
I guess if he were to be hospitalised/die, the possibility of the sympathy vote would arise, too.



[1] I'm tired, so the internet's best shot will have to do.

"القاعدة" "n. base, basis, rule, precept, principle, standard, fundament, foundation, socle "



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Date: 2008-09-23 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The translation with meaning intact is simple:

"The" is "al"
"Base" is "Qaeda".

"The Base" has, literally and in every detail, the same meaning as "al Qaeda".

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
No, and because stupid isn't illegal. "High Crimes And Misdemeanors" are illegal, and despite Bush's record, congress are cowards (the House) and incapable of passing legislation over Republican partisan protest (the Senate), so they can't pass articles of impeachment and hang the bastard for war crimes.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] botia.livejournal.com
Kind of reminds me of the recent Pope choice, deliberately chosen due to his age/health issues because they want him to be a short-term pope.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rosethornn.livejournal.com
Ah, I see. Thankyou for explaining, that's an interesting piece of information.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
Perhaps, but I don't know if it is even _legal_ to elect him if he were hospitalized or die. I mean, I suppose the dead have voted in the past so it's not that unreasonable for the dead to be elected. Still.

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The dead have been elected in the past. John Ashcroft lost to a dead man in 2000. (http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/07/senate.missouri/)

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Date: 2008-09-23 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Always follow a fat Pope with a thin Pope, or a Nazi Pope. That's just how it is!

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvergwyn.livejournal.com
Yeah, that part sucks.

Now, let me ask this...this is a democracy, so can the people ever go "Opps...we made a mistake. Our bad. You get to leave office - you're being replaced." Can we do that?

ObMontyPython

Date: 2008-09-23 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Pope: "I just want a Last Supper with twelve disciples, no waiters, no mariachi band, no kangaroos, and one Christ!"
Michelangelo: "One??!?"
P: "Yes, ONE! What in God's name possessed you to paint it with Three Christs in it?!?"
M: "It works, mate!"
P: "It does not work."
M: "It does work: the fat one balances the two skinny ones."

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Technically, or in practice?

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvergwyn.livejournal.com
Yes and yes.

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Then: yes, and not really, AIUI.

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] booniecat.livejournal.com
WHy should he release his medical record? I wouldn't, and I wouldn't expect anyone else to either. That is some private, personal shit.

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Date: 2008-09-23 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com
Actually, News of the Weird (http://www.newsoftheweird.com/) has a No Longer Weird (http://www.newsoftheweird.com/special/special.html) category, and "political candidate dies but still wins the election is #6.

I remember when I read that this was so common it was no longer weird, I laughed. Then I realized: The governor's race in WA then was a batshit Republican vs. a rational but wimpy Democrat, and if the Democrat had died during the race, I'd have still voted for him.

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Date: 2008-09-23 03:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ulitave.livejournal.com
there's a theory floating around that he didn't really beat it, and that his mental issues are cancer related.

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Date: 2008-09-23 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] axejudge.livejournal.com
Yes, because even a dead man is better than John Ashcroft. (And yes, I *did* vote for the dead guy.)

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Date: 2008-09-23 04:53 am (UTC)

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Nixon stepped down voluntarily, technically.

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com
I haven't read McCains medical record, but if you want a certain diagnosis, you need to do at least a sentinel node (which is lymph node surgery), and if it was some time ago, he probably had a full lymph node surgery to make sure the cancer hadn't spread.

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Because the health of the president IS the business of the population of the United States, and thus the health of a potential makes a significant difference to the people who might vote for him. As they want to vote for him, not assume he will spend his time in the hospital dying with his veep running the country. We did not get to vote for her, after all.

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Date: 2008-09-23 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Doesn't he look tired...

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Date: 2008-09-23 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
At McCain's age, with his history of trauma, the odds that he has some sort of mental problem - be it Alzheimer's, PTSD, or whatever - are significant enough to warrant investigation. The American people deserve to know whether someone's gonna Reagan out on them.

With a medical record that thick, and a presidential campaign on the way, McCain will have had a comprehensive psychological battery, so one of two things has to be the case. Either he has a clean bill of mental health, in which case he should release that to assuage people of very real, very well-founded fears ... or he doesn't have a clean bill of mental health, in which case he shouldn't be concealing a diagnosed mental illness from his voters. There is no set of facts for which McCain concealing his mental health records is at all a good thing, and that he refuses to let them be seen is a strong sign that he's got a positive diagnosis and doesn't want people to know about it.

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Date: 2008-09-23 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thipe.livejournal.com
I for one welcome our new zombie overlords.

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Date: 2008-09-23 10:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
If I remember the story correctly, he died after the tickets had already been printed, right? So his name was still on the ballot?

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Date: 2008-09-23 10:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
In Canada, yes. That's what the Governor General (or Queen) is for.

In US, no clue.

Re: ObMontyPython

Date: 2008-09-23 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
It's artistic license!

Re: ObMontyPython

Date: 2008-09-23 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
I'm the bleeding pope, I am!

Re: ObMontyPython

Date: 2008-09-23 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
BLOODY FASCIST!!

Re: ObMontyPython

Date: 2008-09-23 10:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
Thus taking us, in a neat circle, to where we started!

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gebkivistik.livejournal.com
You are thinking of a recall. California did it to Gray Davis and replaced him with Ahnuld.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_California_recall

No similar statute exists for federal offices - impeachment is the only option.

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:53 am (UTC)
jerril: A cartoon head with caucasian skin, brown hair, and glasses. (Default)
From: [personal profile] jerril
Doesn't he act a little like he has a brain tumour?

Even if he doesn't, (and if its in his lymph system it could get to his brain) chemotherapy and radiation therapy both do scary things to your brain - between your immune system going AARG and the chemicals and the OMG, it's just not good for you.

Even after you beat the cancer, and even if the cancer was nowhere near your brain, you can have lasting mental impairment.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
That, and... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Jones)

The Doctor reacts furiously however, warning her that he can bring her down with just six words: "Don't you think she looks tired?" In the episode's dénouement she is seen to be facing rumours of ill-health and a vote of no confidence.

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Date: 2008-09-23 12:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
#1: Because it's normal for pres candidates to release their records, to assure the voters that they don't have any serious medical issues that will impair their functioning. Like, say, Reagan's Alzheimers. They don't want to make that mistake again.

#2: Because even if it wasn't normal, in this case we have a 72-year-old cancer patient with physically crippling injuries, a history of PTSD, and all the early warning signs of senile dementia.

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Date: 2008-09-23 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spartonian.livejournal.com
The Republic part of Democratic Republic makes it difficult with that pesky chain of command thing. The elected reps have to make it happen, which means don't count on it.

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Date: 2008-09-23 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] axejudge.livejournal.com
Yes. It was less than a month to the election, and his name could not be removed by state law, so his widow became the unofficial candidate. She held the office until a special election 2 years later, where Jim (No-)Talent defeated her. *shudder*

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Date: 2008-09-23 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
Oh pooh. :(

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Date: 2008-09-23 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] opaqueplanet.livejournal.com
Man, I WISH that worked for men like it did for women. Nice Doctor Who reference, btw.

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvergwyn.livejournal.com
What kind of crap is that?! That TOTALLY needs to be changed!!!

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Date: 2008-09-23 11:15 pm (UTC)

Good luck

Date: 2008-09-24 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gebkivistik.livejournal.com
gettin' the lege to pass a law that says they can be kicked out of their jobs at any time.

Half of the dickweeds who campaigned on enacting term limits changed their minds once they got on the lobbyist gravy train.

Re: Good luck

Date: 2008-09-25 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silvergwyn.livejournal.com
Stupid lobbyists...

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