Give me a reason to like a different OS more. Fsckin' mac haters. MS might have market share, but this past weekend was a *stellar* fucking example why they shouldn't.
Non-Mac OSes are cheaper, work with cheaper, better hardware, and work in sane, predictable, customisable ways. They don't, AS A DESIGN OBJECTIVE, constantly hamstring you to the personal preferences of the interface designer.
"A wide selection of cheap, non-stupid software" is also a plus that Macs *don't* have.
Oh well... you get the viruses, we get the crazies... I guess it all evens out. ;)
Although I'm really bi-platformal and always have been. I have a Mac and a PC (and a Linux webserver). Ironically enough the only thing I use the PC for these days is my iPod, because a PC was the only way I could get the music off of it without having to download extra software. I hate iTunes and iPods, but it was a gift, what can you do.
"A wide selection of cheap, non-stupid software" is also a plus that Macs *don't* have.
They don't? Aside from the OS itself, there is very little in the way of expensive software on my macbook. Come to think of it, the little software I felt compelled to purchase for it was under $50 for the most part. Everything else was either there, or available as open source.
If by non-Mac OS you mean MS Windows, I'd say no it's not cheaper. Leopard is $129. With the exception of the useless edition of Vista, they go up in price significantly. It's certainly not cheaper in time in maintenance either. Anyone responsible for host or network security could attest to that. Want to know how much time I have to spend tracking down security issues relating to a Mac? None. The occassional hiccup with our ssl vpn solution, and those are solved pretty quickly. And yeah, we've got more than a few of them kicking around in Canada and the US.
Cheaper hardware. Yep, check. Apple hardware is definitely pricier when looking at laptops and desktops. But if you're not an Apple zealot of some kind, it's pretty easy to put less expensive stuff in them. I upgraded my 7200rpm 2.5 160G SATAII drive to a 7200rpm 320G for about $120 by picking one up locally. And I'll tell ya something, it was easy - about 5 minutes, at the most.
Better hardware? Not really. More hardware of equally good quality, sure. And definitely there is better out there. But there's also a metric crapton of shit hardware, and unless you're you or me, the average consumer has no clue which is which.
Work in sane, predictable and customisable ways? You're obviously not talking about Windows anymore... OS X is a lot more friendly on that front than XP or Vista, although it still doesn't hold a candle to the tricks I can pull in linux.
Meh, we've done this before. I think it usually stops when one of our hands get tired, or the horse is microfiltered dust ;)
Having run Windows from 3.11 to current, and also been a long time linux/bsd user in addition to being a macbook user for the last 2+ years - yeah, you'll never convince me Windows is a good answer. It might be the only *available* answer for a given task, but that doesn't make it a good one.
Note the cutting and the piercing. This is yet another example of a disconnect between mind and body where a person is displaying contempt for their body and thereby contempt for themselves. The feedback of pain and the artificiality of the stud only amplifies the alienation of the girl with herself. This form of insanity affects nearly all of us, a mad dichotomy illustrated here by a video of a dog that perceives its own leg as an intruder. (Note that the people laughing in the video seem to be blissfully unaware that their dog is psychotic.)
Pick any given linux distro that's 3 years old or older, cos you can have whatever hardware you want, it shares a common OS ancestor with Mac (both Unix based), does everything Mac does and can easily be made to do these things virtually identically to Mac, is simple enough for my 64 year old mother to use without any instruction, and is free? That's reason enough for me, tho for me, it's mostly the free part that makes it better than MS, and the any hardware I want (or can scavenge on trash day if I'm desperate) that makes it better than Mac.
It's not likely that it's a one-time thing, according the the discussion on the applied-ethology Listserve where I picked up the link. For one thing, the people taking the video sound like they knew this was coming and were prepared, camera in hand. One person on the Listserve compared it to a severe abnormal behaviour seen in some captive primates called "floating limb" behaviour. It's the same kind of thing where a limb would suddenly rise up seemingly of its own accord and the primate would then attack the limb, as though the limb was a separate entity. There was further talk of starting a moderated youtube channel with abnormal behaviour in animals explained, as a way to educate the world that this shit ain't funny.
He loves to be told that the illusion of a spirit/body dichotomy, the activity of self adornment to please oneself and self mutilation are degrees of objectification and debasement of the body and therefore of oneself.
'Loves to be told' used in the same sense as a bear 'loves' to be jabbed with a sharp stick.
That said, smart old fish isn't rising to the bait. 8-D Maybe I should have tried something fresh, like 'once you've gone to the trouble of analysing consumer preferences, inventory turnover rates and when things get sold, you no longer need the horrendous expense of a rickety LAN, dozens of buggy computers and a full-time sub-contractor to tend them'.
One would wonder how you analyse consumer preferences, inventory turnover rates, when things get sold, and to do so and track how that changes over time, without the expense of a rickety LAN, dozens of buggy computers, and a full-time sub-contractor to tend them.
-- only run your government-subsidized LAN for three years to collect data on trends.
-- Use your student slave-labor force to manually inventory stores and restaurants at frequent intervals, correlate with ticket sales at the park gate and use that data to determine trends. Again, after three years you should have a good idea of what sells and when. Bonus: since the student slave-labor force is present every year, you can spot-check at any time, no hardware or software upgrades required.
So you're discounting the possibility that the market may change after your three years of data?
Also, while slave labour is cheap, inventory takes time, just keeping track of what you sell as you sell it is likely cheaper even at student labour prices.
It'll take a bit to get through both, but my initial reaction to his opening in the first is 'why is he comparing an application to an OS'. His critique of the Dock is bang on, and I solved it the same way with DragThing - which still doesn't make Apple worse than Microsoft ;) Their quick start suffers the same problem. It's definitely a design issue on Apple's side they should be fixing though.
Student slave-labour is a necessary evil as students serve the customers, wash everything, man the cash registers and act as bouncers/lost kid finders. This means that they are already on site anyway and available for inventory, especially before the grounds open and on days of low numbers of patrons. Thus, spot-checking to detect new trends is always possible.
I expect the popularity of product by type to remain consistent year after year (t-shirts, pens, hard candy, Beaver Tails, coffee, beer...). There will always be volatility in sales of novelty items (like Croc Hunter memorabilia) and no instant inventory is going to improve foretelling stock turnover. It's like the March edition of National Geographic: two days after the tar sands article was on the news I was unable to find a copy in the shops in town.
Heh. Having just had someone (who I share friends with but am not their friend or visa versa) use my icon, I am suddenly tempted and inspired to make a new journal for iconmaking.
Fewer viruses, MANY MANY MANY more security holes.
Spend a month on the (weekly) CERT list, you'll hear about two hundred "we learned nothing from previous experience or good practice" security holes in Apple software.
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Date: 2009-03-04 12:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 12:26 am (UTC)And carved arm or not, she's hot.
:D
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Date: 2009-03-04 12:32 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 12:43 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 01:02 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 01:04 am (UTC)She's nuts. Kinda cute, but nuts.
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 01:24 am (UTC)(I'm also the guy who had an ex carve his initials in her arm. She wasn 't an ex at the time, but it precipitated the ex-hood.)
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:42 am (UTC)Not that I'm tired and burnt from that fiasco....
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:53 am (UTC)She's totally fucking crazy.
;)
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:55 am (UTC)"A wide selection of cheap, non-stupid software" is also a plus that Macs *don't* have.
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 02:17 am (UTC)Oh well... you get the viruses, we get the crazies... I guess it all evens out. ;)
Although I'm really bi-platformal and always have been. I have a Mac and a PC (and a Linux webserver). Ironically enough the only thing I use the PC for these days is my iPod, because a PC was the only way I could get the music off of it without having to download extra software. I hate iTunes and iPods, but it was a gift, what can you do.
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Date: 2009-03-04 02:28 am (UTC)... fucking crazy. Jesus.
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Date: 2009-03-04 03:01 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 03:23 am (UTC)They don't? Aside from the OS itself, there is very little in the way of expensive software on my macbook. Come to think of it, the little software I felt compelled to purchase for it was under $50 for the most part. Everything else was either there, or available as open source.
If by non-Mac OS you mean MS Windows, I'd say no it's not cheaper. Leopard is $129. With the exception of the useless edition of Vista, they go up in price significantly. It's certainly not cheaper in time in maintenance either. Anyone responsible for host or network security could attest to that. Want to know how much time I have to spend tracking down security issues relating to a Mac? None. The occassional hiccup with our ssl vpn solution, and those are solved pretty quickly. And yeah, we've got more than a few of them kicking around in Canada and the US.
Cheaper hardware. Yep, check. Apple hardware is definitely pricier when looking at laptops and desktops. But if you're not an Apple zealot of some kind, it's pretty easy to put less expensive stuff in them. I upgraded my 7200rpm 2.5 160G SATAII drive to a 7200rpm 320G for about $120 by picking one up locally. And I'll tell ya something, it was easy - about 5 minutes, at the most.
Better hardware? Not really. More hardware of equally good quality, sure. And definitely there is better out there. But there's also a metric crapton of shit hardware, and unless you're you or me, the average consumer has no clue which is which.
Work in sane, predictable and customisable ways? You're obviously not talking about Windows anymore... OS X is a lot more friendly on that front than XP or Vista, although it still doesn't hold a candle to the tricks I can pull in linux.
Meh, we've done this before. I think it usually stops when one of our hands get tired, or the horse is microfiltered dust ;)
Having run Windows from 3.11 to current, and also been a long time linux/bsd user in addition to being a macbook user for the last 2+ years - yeah, you'll never convince me Windows is a good answer. It might be the only *available* answer for a given task, but that doesn't make it a good one.
Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 03:25 am (UTC)Note the cutting and the piercing. This is yet another example of a disconnect between mind and body where a person is displaying contempt for their body and thereby contempt for themselves. The feedback of pain and the artificiality of the stud only amplifies the alienation of the girl with herself. This form of insanity affects nearly all of us, a mad dichotomy illustrated here by a video of a dog that perceives its own leg as an intruder. (Note that the people laughing in the video seem to be blissfully unaware that their dog is psychotic.)
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Date: 2009-03-04 04:22 am (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 04:40 am (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
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Date: 2009-03-04 07:44 am (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 08:53 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 08:55 am (UTC)... I may have to make that into an icon.
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Date: 2009-03-04 11:37 am (UTC)http://www.asktog.com/columns/076AppleFlatlandPart2.html
LJ CUT
Date: 2009-03-04 11:38 am (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 11:49 am (UTC)'Loves to be told' used in the same sense as a bear 'loves' to be jabbed with a sharp stick.
That said, smart old fish isn't rising to the bait. 8-D Maybe I should have tried something fresh, like 'once you've gone to the trouble of analysing consumer preferences, inventory turnover rates and when things get sold, you no longer need the horrendous expense of a rickety LAN, dozens of buggy computers and a full-time sub-contractor to tend them'.
Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 12:00 pm (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 12:33 pm (UTC)-- only run your government-subsidized LAN for three years to collect data on trends.
-- Use your student slave-labor force to manually inventory stores and restaurants at frequent intervals, correlate with ticket sales at the park gate and use that data to determine trends. Again, after three years you should have a good idea of what sells and when. Bonus: since the student slave-labor force is present every year, you can spot-check at any time, no hardware or software upgrades required.
Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 12:47 pm (UTC)Also, while slave labour is cheap, inventory takes time, just keeping track of what you sell as you sell it is likely cheaper even at student labour prices.
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Date: 2009-03-04 01:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 01:38 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 01:44 pm (UTC)Re: Another example of flesh-flaying disconnection and contempt
Date: 2009-03-04 01:51 pm (UTC)I expect the popularity of product by type to remain consistent year after year (t-shirts, pens, hard candy, Beaver Tails, coffee, beer...). There will always be volatility in sales of novelty items (like Croc Hunter memorabilia) and no instant inventory is going to improve foretelling stock turnover. It's like the March edition of National Geographic: two days after the tar sands article was on the news I was unable to find a copy in the shops in town.
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Date: 2009-03-04 02:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 05:22 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 09:51 pm (UTC)Yeah, I use Terminal all the time to access my web server...hrmm... didn't know that. Thanks for the tip.
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Date: 2009-03-04 09:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-04 11:42 pm (UTC)(and no, I still haven't fixed the other infected desktop)
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Date: 2009-03-05 12:02 am (UTC)So you may get your wish.
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Date: 2009-03-05 12:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-05 12:08 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-03-05 12:19 am (UTC)Spend a month on the (weekly) CERT list, you'll hear about two hundred "we learned nothing from previous experience or good practice" security holes in Apple software.
It's *creepy*.