I would recommend linking to Kate's post (http://kate-nepveu.livejournal.com/429215.html) (where I suspect this was grabbed from), which has more info and a video (not a very good video, but...) and links to related resources.
I've been thinking for a while that I should really take more notice of who the producers of sucky movies are; not that I'm a big Anime fan anyway, but still, who is the guilty party here?
It's not definitely the absolute definite plan that had been intended to be followed, but unbreakable was certainly writen as the first part of a classic superhero story three parter - generally, in one movie/start up of a comic, it goes through three stages - hero discovers powers, hero finds misson and fights against ordinary power bad guys, wiping the floor with them, hero gets an arch-enemy/supervillan/whatever, more on their own power level, and the two fight it out.
If you look at most of the modern superhero movies - Spiderman, Ironman, Fantastic Four, arguably The Hulk - the first film follows that route.
In Unbreakable, they decided to concentrate on just the "Hero discovers powers" part. Certainly the though must've existed to do the other two parts, but the film's poor box office figures made that not happen. Though its good DVD sales mightead to it eventually coming
My good lady wife, mimdancer, asks if, like most other Hollywood villians, the bad guy has an English accent to counter the American accented heroes.
It really does get tiring, you know, when you know that a character as soon as the bad guy opens his mouth. Especially when one is of a nationality where that accent is closer to your own than that of the heroes.
Hollywood isn't racist. It's capitalist. If they thought 2 fresh off the boat somalia's would get 200 million first weekend box office they'd be in the movie.
Also, they did originally offer the role of Zuko to a white douchebag from a boy band.
Lets not forget anime is infamous for racial ambiguity. 99% of characters in Anime look white, when they usually supposed to be Japanese. I've met tons of Japanese people with blonde hair and blue eyes personally.
And, when it comes to movie adaptations of anime/comics it isn't like hollywood has ever given a shit about staying true to the source material. Halle Berry, Micheal Clark Duncan, and Billy Dee Williams aren't white. A white chick played Silverfox, a blackfoot indian (I don't recall the uproar on that one). Dead Pool was played by a none cancer patient (though I'm keeping my fingers crossed on Ryan Renoylds). Both Batman and the Joker were played by pretty boy foreigners.
Judge the casting choices after you've seen them in the movie. Knee jerk reactions to this shit are as useful as hollywood's inability to cast minorities. I'd much rather hear people complain about how M. Night is going to fuck this up since he's only made one decent movie.
I'm going to be far more upset when I see Keanu as Spike Spegiel.
No, Hollywood is both racist and capitalist. Hollywood may think that only the Whitest of White leads can sell a movie, but it's only their own prejudices that informs them of such. They sure as hell have nothing solid to back it. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: Hollywood "knows" only white leads can sell a movie so they only cast white leads (at least in the Big Movies, which are more important and thus more promoted). Since they only cast white leads, that's what the public goes to see, and so the prejudices of Hollywood are confirmed.
Also, they did originally offer the role of Zuko to a white douchebag from a boy band.
Which would have effectively whitewashed three fourths of the setting. Things are bad now, but they were worse before.
Lets not forget anime is infamous for racial ambiguity. 99% of characters in Anime look white, when they usually supposed to be Japanese.
Actually, they look white to you. Check out this site. I love that article.
I've met tons of Japanese people with blonde hair and blue eyes personally.
And I've met tons of Caucasians with green hair and golden eyes. Or pink hair and red eyes.
Halle Berry, Micheal Clark Duncan, and Billy Dee Williams aren't white.
And they're very much exceptions. Also, notice how hard BDW was dropped as soon as Dent was called upon to actually do something?
A white chick played Silverfox, a blackfoot indian (I don't recall the uproar on that one).
I don't recall an uproar either, it was more like a protracted sigh.
Both Batman and the Joker were played by pretty boy foreigners.
Okay, now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Judge the casting choices after you've seen them in the movie.
Why? Will they have magically transformed into their proper ethnicities once I've seen it?
Knee jerk reactions to this shit are as useful as hollywood's inability to cast minorities. I'd much rather hear people complain about how M. Night is going to fuck this up since he's only made one decent movie.
And I'd rather complain about racism within the movie industry, because that's a helluva lot more important than whining about bad movies. And I LOVE whining about bad movies.
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Date: 2009-07-31 09:55 pm (UTC)The most recent version has updated his image. He's now played by James van der Beek.
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Date: 2009-07-31 10:33 pm (UTC)If you look at most of the modern superhero movies - Spiderman, Ironman, Fantastic Four, arguably The Hulk - the first film follows that route.
In Unbreakable, they decided to concentrate on just the "Hero discovers powers" part. Certainly the though must've existed to do the other two parts, but the film's poor box office figures made that not happen. Though its good DVD sales mightead to it eventually coming
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Date: 2009-07-31 11:04 pm (UTC)It really does get tiring, you know, when you know that a character as soon as the bad guy opens his mouth. Especially when one is of a nationality where that accent is closer to your own than that of the heroes.
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Date: 2009-08-01 08:32 am (UTC)Also, they did originally offer the role of Zuko to a white douchebag from a boy band.
Lets not forget anime is infamous for racial ambiguity. 99% of characters in Anime look white, when they usually supposed to be Japanese. I've met tons of Japanese people with blonde hair and blue eyes personally.
And, when it comes to movie adaptations of anime/comics it isn't like hollywood has ever given a shit about staying true to the source material. Halle Berry, Micheal Clark Duncan, and Billy Dee Williams aren't white. A white chick played Silverfox, a blackfoot indian (I don't recall the uproar on that one). Dead Pool was played by a none cancer patient (though I'm keeping my fingers crossed on Ryan Renoylds). Both Batman and the Joker were played by pretty boy foreigners.
Judge the casting choices after you've seen them in the movie. Knee jerk reactions to this shit are as useful as hollywood's inability to cast minorities. I'd much rather hear people complain about how M. Night is going to fuck this up since he's only made one decent movie.
I'm going to be far more upset when I see Keanu as Spike Spegiel.
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Date: 2009-08-01 10:00 am (UTC)No, Hollywood is both racist and capitalist. Hollywood may think that only the Whitest of White leads can sell a movie, but it's only their own prejudices that informs them of such. They sure as hell have nothing solid to back it. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy: Hollywood "knows" only white leads can sell a movie so they only cast white leads (at least in the Big Movies, which are more important and thus more promoted). Since they only cast white leads, that's what the public goes to see, and so the prejudices of Hollywood are confirmed.
Also, they did originally offer the role of Zuko to a white douchebag from a boy band.
Which would have effectively whitewashed three fourths of the setting. Things are bad now, but they were worse before.
Lets not forget anime is infamous for racial ambiguity. 99% of characters in Anime look white, when they usually supposed to be Japanese.
Actually, they look white to you. Check out this site. I love that article.
I've met tons of Japanese people with blonde hair and blue eyes personally.
And I've met tons of Caucasians with green hair and golden eyes. Or pink hair and red eyes.
Halle Berry, Micheal Clark Duncan, and Billy Dee Williams aren't white.
And they're very much exceptions. Also, notice how hard BDW was dropped as soon as Dent was called upon to actually do something?
A white chick played Silverfox, a blackfoot indian (I don't recall the uproar on that one).
I don't recall an uproar either, it was more like a protracted sigh.
Both Batman and the Joker were played by pretty boy foreigners.
Okay, now we're scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Judge the casting choices after you've seen them in the movie.
Why? Will they have magically transformed into their proper ethnicities once I've seen it?
Knee jerk reactions to this shit are as useful as hollywood's inability to cast minorities. I'd much rather hear people complain about how M. Night is going to fuck this up since he's only made one decent movie.
And I'd rather complain about racism within the movie industry, because that's a helluva lot more important than whining about bad movies. And I LOVE whining about bad movies.