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Date: 2010-09-24 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
So this guy lives in a place where it never precipitates and the temperature never hits that crucial 4°C mark, huh?

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejoff.livejournal.com
I was going to say... would make that winter chore of shovelling the drive absolutely vital!

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-gneech.livejournal.com
Nifty! I think this could be brilliant.

-TG

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
I was thinking more about glass + water (or snow, or ice) = severely decreased coefficient of friction. And the inconvenient fact that water expands when it hits 4°C. Asphalt has enough give that frost heaves are just inconvenient, but glass and the semiconductors in photovoltaic cells are both brittle, and thus anyplace with a winter wouldn't be able to use the panel he's depicted standing on.

Not to mention the cyclic loading from multi-ton vehicles driving over it all day.

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure that concocting a glass that has the same friction as a road (or better) would be the first order of business here. It's hardly impossible.

I'm a little more concerned about frozen water, but not so concerned that I think it's a deal breaker. And they did mention, in the video, that he circuitry would be in a hermetically sealed layer.

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
Ahahahaha "it's a materials problem!" Yeah, yeah, it's always a materials problem. Materials limitations are a major design driver. Sometimes the driver.

How do you make glass with an increased μ that doesn't reduce light transmission to the point of ineffectualness for PV power generation? How do you make a glass that's sufficiently scratch resistant to not reduce light transmission to uselessness after a month, while also not being so brittle it shatters under the loading the first time a semi trailer goes through?

How do you "hermetically seal" something so that it doesn't break under cyclic fatigue? You have high-cycle loading, the traffic, and low-cycle loading, the yearly temperature changes. They present different problems, and have different, sometimes mutually incompatible solutions.

Their website doesn't link to a single academic publication what the fuck.

Anyway, I'm not dead set against the idea. I just think they're minimizing the problems, which is what business scumbags do, not scientists and engineers. There isn't a single engineering spec on the whole damn website, just some back-of-the-envelope surface area calculations.

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Date: 2010-09-24 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
This is "Wired". Pie in the sky is often what they do best - but it's still a COOL IDEA.

The way I think of it, reading science news written by reporters is like reading science FICTION - and that's often kinda fun! Thinking of it this way lowers my stress levels.

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Date: 2010-09-24 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Agreed. Also, I certainly don't expect a five minute soundbyte do anything but make me excited about a technology that they are still developing. How do you do these things? Hell if I know. And I doubt they know. But if they figure it out, I'll be excited to drive on it.

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Date: 2010-09-24 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
So obvious! Yet so awesome!

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