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Scarborough MP Rathika Sitsabaiesan, on her campaign website:



Scarborough MP Rathika Sitsabaiesan, on parl.gc.ca:



Once again, side by side:



I kind of REALLY want to know whose decision that was, and what the fuck they were thinking. If it was Ms Sitsabaiesan, why not just take a new picture? If it wasn't her, WHAT THE HELL, PEOPLE?
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Date: 2011-09-27 12:49 am (UTC)
ashbet: (Sedusa)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
Yeah, I'd really like to know whose bright idea that was.

If it *wasn't* her, I sincerely hope they catch hell for it.

Talk about fucking *erasing* visible signs of womanhood . . .

-- A >:(


(Yes, I know that not all women have cleavage, or breasts, or a vagina, or two X chromosomes -- but *erasing her breasts* seems like a really gender-hostile act to me. And if it was her -- fuck, woman. Own your body!)

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I can UNDERSTAND an MP wanting to not have visible cleavage on her official portrait photo. Not necessarily agree with the reasons, but certainly see why she might feel it was necessary.

But seriously, NEW PICTURE.

thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 01:02 am (UTC)
maelorin: (abandoned rational thought)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
if it were her, surely she'd have it done to the picture on her own site?

methinks this was done by someone in pr in parli. it looks like some other 'subtle' touch-ups have been done as well.
(note that the two pictures have the same dimensions 142x230px, but you can see more of her left shoulder/arm, and her face is slightly narrower.)

makes me wonder if this has been done to/for other mps?

Re: thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 01:03 am (UTC)
maelorin: (Default)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
alternatively, a second picture from a series, then altered?

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
She's clearly "lost" 10kg in addition to the uniboob in the photoshopping, yes.

Re: thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 01:15 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (Default)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
Apart from the clevage-erasure in the second image (WTF), I think it's just a different crop of the same image, and not a change in proportions. I am suspicious enough to stick them in GIMP and actually make some measurements when I get home though.

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Date: 2011-09-27 01:20 am (UTC)
ashbet: (Burlesque)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
I'm totally fine with her saying "I don't want cleavage showing in my governmental workplace photo." But, in that case, why would she have it on her own website? And I'm with you -- why not just take a new picture in a higher-necked top, if she felt like visible cleavage made her look less professional?

Which is another thing that drives me crazy -- I ran into that issue when I was working in conservative law firms. Given the way I'm endowed, a top that's modest on some people is positively indecent on me . . . but even if I only wore high scoop-neck tops and button-up shirts, I'm still going to have cleavage if I'm leaning over or my arms are pressed against my breasts. I had a few people, all women, make snitty remarks to me about dressing "professionally", when I was actually dressed in a very conservative outfit that simply failed to hide the fact that I have curves.

It's something that a lot of fat women have to deal with, as well (at the time I was being criticized, I didn't fall under that category -- I was a size 10-12) . . . clothing that is considered "professional" on thin women is open to criticism on fat women -- either they're told that fitted clothing is too tight (meaning "I can see your body shape", not talking about clothes that are actually too small), or they're told that loose concealing clothing looks "sloppy." Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

And that doesn't even BEGIN to address the inequity in the clothing available to smaller women vs. larger women -- it's really hard to find classy professional clothes in a size 18, and I don't have ANY issues compared to women who are a size 28.

(Sorry, tangent -- but this thing actually OFFENDS me, which is a pretty rare occurrence.)

-- A <3

Re: thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 01:21 am (UTC)
ashbet: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
I think it's a different crop of the same image, too.

Her face may also be marginally lighter, but that could be an effect of compression.

-- A <3

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Date: 2011-09-27 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
Or if you're going to all the trouble to photoshop, 'shop up the neckline rather than erasing cleavage!

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Date: 2011-09-27 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unnamed525.livejournal.com
"uniboob" lol

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Date: 2011-09-27 01:51 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (Default)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
In this case, photoshopping out the cleavage would be a lot easier than upping the neckline - I'm far from an expert, but I could do confidently do the former but not the latter.

But in this case - the easiest and also most ethically defensible course would be to take a new photo.

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Date: 2011-09-27 01:56 am (UTC)
ext_22548: (Default)
From: [identity profile] cmattg.livejournal.com
Huh. And here my first assumption was, they'd 'shopped cleavage IN.

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Date: 2011-09-27 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skreidle.livejournal.com
All the more so considering that just taking a new photo--pretty much anywhere, given a little bit of forewarning for attire and location--would take far less time and effort (and cause far less consternation) than the option they chose..

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 02:15 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (melancholia)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
I'm rather uncharitably imagining that the snitty women would probably suggest surgery if you managed to get them to acknowledge that you were shaped differently to the clothing avaliable for you to buy. 'Cos it can't be the clothes that are wrong-shaped.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 02:24 am (UTC)
ashbet: (ClueBat)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
My own mother (who is a bit of a horrorshow) has actually said to me that she thought my breasts were "in poor taste."

DUDE.

-- A (who likes to be cleavage-y in my off hours, but dressed very sharp-professional for work -- the most suggestive thing I ever did was wear jackets with a bit of shape at the waist/more of a retro silhouette, because they FIT MY BODY. *gah!*)

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ice-hesitant.livejournal.com
I'm pretty sure the Parliament picture is the before and her website picture is after. The bosom was enhanced and the head was enlarged, unless you have contrary evidence. No one would ever Photoshop a head smaller. People like kawaii baby proportions. Big heads == good.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 02:45 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (universe)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
"in poor taste."

Oh my. I bet you chose them specifically in order to get her goat, too.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 02:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] podle.livejournal.com
WHOA. I just...really? Poor taste? I...am speechless.

I share your pain regarding professional clothing! My, um, issues tend to happen on the other end, though. The junk in my trunk will not be hidden. Other women can wear pencil skirts to work and not have anyone comment. Me - not so much.

I think its dang odd that someone would actually choose the cleavage erased pic as a campaign pic. She just looks weird.

(Here via A's link on G+ - hope that's okay.)

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 03:16 am (UTC)
ashbet: (Intent)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
Damn straight I did ^_____^

(Or, at least, my body apparently shares the same opinion of my mother as I do, so it flooded me with estrogen at age 12 and provided me with the Rack O'Doom!)

-- A ;)

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Date: 2011-09-27 03:19 am (UTC)
ashbet: (ChibiAndi)
From: [personal profile] ashbet
You, my darling, have an excellent trunk, and should never have to hide it!

And, yes. Poor taste. I was also, for once, speechless.

She also suggested that I wear minimizer bras every day so that they didn't "stick out so much." (I actually DID wear them to work for a while, when I was 19 and 20 and needed people to take me seriously at the law firm, but they're PAINFUL and I refuse to literally bind my breasts just to conform to some idiot's notion of what a "professional" woman looks like. So, eventually, I just started wearing normal bras in my proper size, and yes, they do "stick out" -- and people just had to COPE.)

-- A :P

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-trav.livejournal.com
that was my assumption, now I'm confused and don't know what to believe!

Re: thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 05:28 am (UTC)
ext_37422: three leds (Default)
From: [identity profile] dianavilliers.livejournal.com
Image

Image with cleavage scaled by 93% and overlayed on the non-cleavage image. The registration is not perfect, but the proportions are identical.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 05:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
Your mother is irrational. And minimizer bras are horrible, painful, and all they do is give you a whole bunch of side-boob.

(no subject)

Date: 2011-09-27 06:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-dirt.livejournal.com
It would take me five minutes to convincingly up the neckline. It would take me four minutes to reshoot.

Re: thems'll poke ya eyes oot!

Date: 2011-09-27 06:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-dirt.livejournal.com
excellent. well done. Thanks for doing that.
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