But that makes "dirt in your chest cavity does not cause your death" part of the premise. Is that just Tony or the whole world? How is accepting "for some reason, dirt in his chest cavity did not cause Tony Stark's death" or "for some reason, Perfect Doctor was able to keep the area sanitary" any different than accepting "for some reason, the Wayne Inc. microwave cannon did not work directly on people" or "for some reason, steam containing Scarecrow's drugs cooled to a reasonable temperature"?[1] Both sets of rationale require that we believe things about the world that are either patently false ("people are not mostly water" "people do not die when dirt gets into their chest cavity") or rely on fictional crutches ("Perfect Doctor abilities sidestep things we know to be true" "the creation process of Plot Device sidesteps things we know to be true") to carry on.
This might be a reason why I have an easier time accepting radioactive spider and space baby: because they're so clearly fictional. There are no rules for something that clearly fictional except the ones they are making up. It's probably one of the reasons why I can't stand it when Batman is portrayed as always being right for no other reason than "because he's Batman." When his tactical and/or detective abilities are portrayed more like precognition, that breaks the nature of the abilities for me, because - all things considered - he isn't psychic, he's just extremely well trained. If Stark had set up a machine to do the surgery or if it had been something he had invented to wear, I would have accepted that just fine. Owing to Perfect Engineer skills, a machine could be made that would be exacting and could purify or filter the air or something. Something he just wore wouldn't require any surgery at all. As it is, I have to not only accept the super human skills of another person, I have to accept that dirt doesn't work the same way.
I know all the stuff about Star Trek, I was just messing with you on that one. My wife an I made fun of the cell phone call across the universe that could not even be remotely duplicated with the communications system of an entire ship. I'm actually surprised you didn't add the contents of the phone call to New Vulcan because I have a bigger problem with that than any of the other things.
[1]Please note, I'm not saying I believe either of those things, but - owing to the utterly fictional nature of both the Wayne Inc. microwave cannon and Scarecrow's drugs - either could be argued by saying their undefined fictional properties and undefined fictional creation allows for fictional results. My honest opinion is that they have no rationale for it, or, if they do, it was cobbled together after people started pointing it out as a plot hole.
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Date: 2013-05-25 11:57 pm (UTC)This might be a reason why I have an easier time accepting radioactive spider and space baby: because they're so clearly fictional. There are no rules for something that clearly fictional except the ones they are making up. It's probably one of the reasons why I can't stand it when Batman is portrayed as always being right for no other reason than "because he's Batman." When his tactical and/or detective abilities are portrayed more like precognition, that breaks the nature of the abilities for me, because - all things considered - he isn't psychic, he's just extremely well trained. If Stark had set up a machine to do the surgery or if it had been something he had invented to wear, I would have accepted that just fine. Owing to Perfect Engineer skills, a machine could be made that would be exacting and could purify or filter the air or something. Something he just wore wouldn't require any surgery at all. As it is, I have to not only accept the super human skills of another person, I have to accept that dirt doesn't work the same way.
I know all the stuff about Star Trek, I was just messing with you on that one. My wife an I made fun of the cell phone call across the universe that could not even be remotely duplicated with the communications system of an entire ship. I'm actually surprised you didn't add the contents of the phone call to New Vulcan because I have a bigger problem with that than any of the other things.
[1]Please note, I'm not saying I believe either of those things, but - owing to the utterly fictional nature of both the Wayne Inc. microwave cannon and Scarecrow's drugs - either could be argued by saying their undefined fictional properties and undefined fictional creation allows for fictional results. My honest opinion is that they have no rationale for it, or, if they do, it was cobbled together after people started pointing it out as a plot hole.