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An Indiana couple who chose to pray over their dying newborn daughter rather than seek medical care for her were sentenced Friday to six years in prison for reckless homicide.

But a judge suspended most of those prison terms for Dewayne and Maleta Schmidt, instead ordering the couple to serve about a year each at a work-release center.

Their daughter, Rhianna Rose Schmidt, died in August 2003, less than two days after she was born at the couple's home, from an infection typically treated with antibiotics.

The Schmidts' church, the General Assembly and Church of the Firstborn, advocates prayer and faith healing over medical intervention but does not require members to shun medical care.

The Schmidts' probation includes a directive to seek medical help for their two other children should they suffer life-threatening health problems.

Rhianna was the third child of parents attending the Schmidts' church to die since 1998 after family members refused medical treatment, according to published reports. The church is in Morgantown, about 30 miles south of Indianapolis.
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Emphasis mine - not only are brain-damaged imbeciles allowed to breed, but they're allowed to keep their other children and undoubtedly continue the horrific, future-ruining child abuse that is religious indoctrination into cults, perpetuating the cycle and producing YET MORE "I'm incapable of critical thought AND I VOTE" yahoos.

The judge needs to be kicked in the nads. Repeatedly.

(no subject)

Date: 2005-08-17 05:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Their 3rd dead child. Wow. Custody law is strange.

Also, Church of the Firstborn? That sounds kinda creepy.

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Date: 2005-08-17 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] allysonsedai.livejournal.com
Their 3rd dead child

Not the Schmidts' third dead child... three children of different families who attend the same church.

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Date: 2005-08-17 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
Wow CPS should be watching them like a hawk though at least. Yes, they may get their kids back... but it won't be without supervision I would bet.

If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 07:19 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
What do you believe in, anything? Evolution? I mean without out religion there would be no moral laws. You know the Thou shalt nots… all laws in America are somewhat based on those original 10 [even the one that got them convicted], you did know that didn’t you? I mean great uncle BoBo the chimp would have cared less what these people did with their children; animals eat their young quite often.

I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that you would think it would have been their right to have aborted the child during the early stages of the pregnancy? But praying for her once she was born was crazy?

I guess what I’m trying to get across to you is just cause your mommy and daddy didn’t love you, or your priest touched you inappropriately, or a church fell on your pet dog.
Jesus still loves you and will still be there when you work threw your issues.

So quit mocking Him.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
> What do you believe in, anything?

No.

> Evolution?

Evolution requires no belief.

> I mean without out religion there would be no moral laws.

You show a horrendously lacking education in the matters of history and philosophy.

> all laws in America are somewhat based on those original 10

#1: I'm not an American.

#2: Oh, really? Tell me, then, why Thomas Jefferson and the rest of your "founding fathers" disagree with you on that one?

#3: Oh, really? Open your Bible to Exodus 34, and tell me:

Why the first commandment and the first entry in your Bill Of Rights directly contradict each other.

Why the second commandment and the first entry in your Bill Of Rights directly contradict each other.

Why nobody makes the slightest attempt to require unleaven bread of Christians in law.

Why sacrificing your first-born child is illegal

Why working on Sunday is legal

Why nobody observes those two feasts

Why nobody gives blood sacrifice, with or without unleavened bread.. and the next two, too.

Why nobody boils their children in their mother's milk... well, okay, that's ONE out of the TEN the provides any kind of basis for law.

Maybe you meant the *other* ten commandments, the ones that aren't actually called "the ten commandments" in the Bible. Okay, there your record is a litle better, but the first four still directly contradict your Constitution, 5, 7, and 10 are not enforced at all, 6 is directly and legally contradicted every day by the "god told me to do it" brigade that runs your military, even if it's enforced against most civilian, and 6, 8, and 9 were not original sentiments at the time of Moses, and are not original to or proceeding from any religion.

3. "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" - the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by George Washington.

> animals eat their young quite often.

Religion is not the only source of law. A trivial examination of history would have told you this.

> I’m gonna go out on a limb and guess that you would think it would
> have been their right to have aborted the child during the early
> stages of the pregnancy?

Not much of a limb.

> But praying for her once she was born was crazy?

Praying for her *instead of getting her medical treatment* was crazy, yes, just like "naturopaths" who use oatmeal to treat diabetes.

Prayer does not fix sickness. Medicine does. "Praying" for your child instead of getting real help for them is, infact, gross negligence - and before you bring up the study that showed that prayer had a positive effect, follow up on it. The results were doctored, and could not be duplicated.

Now, it's time for you to grow up. Indianapolis is not a *complete* backwater, so there's no excuse for posting anonymous trolls without mentioning who you are or that you're doing so from your workplace at Special Dispatch Incorporated. Observe common courtesy - either sign up for a livejournal account or sign your posts with something identifiable.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
You can imagine my response to all the rest you wrote before this, but this:

Indianapolis is not a *complete* backwater, so there's no excuse for posting anonymous trolls without mentioning who you are or that you're doing so from your workplace at Special Dispatch Incorporated.

...this made me laugh, and almost spill my coffee while reaching for the cup at the same time. I love IP tracking. I love nslookup services. I love people with Clue enough to use them.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 02:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chewygooey.livejournal.com
Actually... all laws in America are based (historically) after Hammurabi's code. More recently, after greek and roman law. MORE recently, after British law. The 10 commandments, as you call them, have very little to do with it. At most, it's some influence of the bible as a hole, but I believe most of those american laws are just common sense.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
Wow. You really are a moron, aren't you?

And here'a a tip. The laws of America aren't baed on hte ten commandments at all. the ten commandments are, thenselves, logical rules used to create order in a primative culture. And while American law totally ignores 30% of those commandments (1-3) it makes use of some of hte others for the same reason the Jews did: because without such laws society doesn't work. it's not like the jews had origional ideas there. they were just dealing with unedicated tribal folk and they had ot spell out things like "Don't kill your friends" to them.

As for belief: if you think belief makes life worth living I say you're living a sad life. Enjoy.

And it's not praying for her once she's born that's the problem, it's ignoring her medical needs in favor of "magic". The crazy part isn't praying for her. The crazy part is actively avoiding modern medicine in favor of the boogeyman.

And if you think jesus is the answer, why is this little girl dead, amigo? it's because a) there is no Jesus or b) jesus doesn't care if little girls die. Or possible c) Jesus can't save dying little girls and he hopes we'll actually get off our butts, use our brains, and help them ourselves.

moron.

Seething Anthropologist

Date: 2005-10-26 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothpanda.livejournal.com
Ahem. Animals rarely eat their young. More often, male animals kill babies because they believe (whether correctly or falsely) that the babies possess the genes of another male. It actually happens quite often among humans, too...like that old saying about beating someone like "a red-headed stepchild." Step-parents are far more likely to abuse children to whom they are not related by blood, which is a holdover from our primitive ancestors, who killed young that did not have their genes so that their own young could prosper. (Also, killing a female's baby makes her ready to mate again much more quickly than waiting for the baby to grow up and leave the family unit.)

So, what was that you were saying about evolution? Or do stepfathers beat and even kill their stepchildren in such great numbers because it's God's Will? Oooh, or maybe Jesus told them to!

Oh, and by the way, you are really showing some serious Christian compassion when you mock someone about having a priest touch them inappropriately, especially when you don't know them and their history. What a catch you must be, I'll bet you accuse lesbians of hating men because they were molested as children! You're such a sensitive guy, a real winner. Your mother must be proud of all that hate.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-26 09:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catlin.livejournal.com
I suppose you are one of those flakes that likes to forget the bible was all for the idea of giving your daughters up to be raped, aren't you. And one of those that likes to forget that most of the biblical Mucky mucks after Sodom and Gomorra were children of incest.

Oh, how about the biblical approval of the same infidelity that it says is wrong? You know.. those ten commandments?

This is not about abortion (which should be legal and safe)nor is this about faith. This is about a couple of flakes that should be involuntarily sterilized, cause they certainly have no business EVER having children. They can't take care of the little "blessings" they have. You know, I have been to the zoo often. Uncle Bobo the Chimp is actually a pretty good parent compared to this couple. This couple KILLED a newborn baby, through neglect, and have two more as of now.

Re: If religion is brain poison?

Date: 2005-10-27 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khymera.livejournal.com
Well, I was going to post a scathing reply full of facts & logic in the face of ign'ant superstition and blind idiocy - but everyone else beat me to it.

I will add that, despite the fact that I personally don't believe in God or mythical saviours, I'm fairly certain that 'He' was not being mocked. I'm far more certain that idiots who willfuly commit senseless acts of stupidity in 'His' name were being mocked. You know, people like mommies and daddies who let their children die, priests who touch others in inappropriate fashions, and apparently - people like you, Mr.'Anonymous'.

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