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[theweaselking]

Republicans in Indiana are trying to pass a law that will make marriage and a court-granted certificate a requirement for motherhood if any kind of "reproductive aid" is used - and make it a crime to reproduce without this certificate and a legal marriage, and require that the married couple be exclusively the legal parents of the child, in perpetuity.

Draft of the law here.

While I'm at it, other Republicans are trying to abolish habeas corpus for the express stated purpose of denying appeals and making sure more (innocent, since they're released on appeal) people get the death penalty.

Once again:

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[missysedai.livejournal.com]

They're claiming that it's to help enforce the surrogacy ban? My bullshit mete just BROKE.

Anybody else see the blatant "We don't want those dirty lezzies having babies"?

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

I see it. Well, Indiana will lose its intelligent lesbian population ... or they'll go out-of-state to get impregnated ... wait ... would that fall under the commerce clause of the Consitution?
What am I talking about? When did the Constitution start mattering?

[missysedai.livejournal.com]

Heh. It stopped mattering a while ago.

Mind, I've been known to remark that people ought to be required to have a license to breed, but my criteria for said license DO NOT include "het, married and religious", as those are all completely irrelevant to the task of parenting.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

My criteria would be "financially and emotionally stable".

[missysedai.livejournal.com]

Those, plus "educated". They don't have to be geniuses, but it would be nice if they could at least read, write and speak properly. Perpetuating teh st00pid is not a good thing.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

Well, I think we ought to be teaching critical thinking (informal logic) starting in elementary school ... and formal logic starting when we now start teaching geometry or algebra. Of course, I wouldn't want only classical logic to be taught, since I expressly deny the validity of non-relevant logics, but it is pedagogically simpler and it shouldn't be too hard to divorce people from it's absurd consequences (it's also possible to just say "this is classical logic; not all logicians think it's the best logic around; here are some resources to look into if you want to explore that") ... at least if they're not rigidly dogmatic thinkers.

[pope-guilty.livejournal.com]

I live in Indiana. Our intelligent lesbian population is nothing more than a courtesy delegation.

[desdenova.livejournal.com]

I'm wondering what the penalty for "unauthorized reproduction" is? State-enforced abortion? I doubt it. A fine? Voiding of parental rights?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

It's a Class B Misdemeanor. Those have a standard punishment.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

I'm taking "class b" as the same thing as "class 2", so here's the standard maximum punishment for that: For Class 2 misdemeanors, confinement in jail for up to six months and a fine of up to $1,000, either or both.

[unnamed525.livejournal.com]

pseudomanitou said that it's sad that the Nazi's record on the treatment of POWs (maybe not the people from their controlled areas) is better than the current DoD.

[culfinriel.livejournal.com]

Um, I'd examine that a little more closely. The Nazis treated some POWs per the Geneva convention but not all. There were some egregious abuses. They were deliberately selective about it, too.

[sivi-volk.livejournal.com]

*blink*

Sometimes I wonder if they're ahead of schedule. Doesn't authoritarianism like this require a few more steps?