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Date: 2005-10-21 07:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Does that mean that everyone convicted of those crimes gets a pardon?

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Date: 2005-10-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
No. Making something legal doesn't mean it was legel *when you did it*, but if you committed the crime after they deleted the law, you'd have a valid defense against conviction.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com
It means it's a good time to go steal some stuff between $1000 and $2500 in Alabama... but stay away from things like cars.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Ok, I wasn't familiar with Alabama law.

In canada by the way it does make it not illegal anymore. It's in the charter.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Charter Section 11 (http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/charter/#juridiques) appears to disagree with you.
11. Any person charged with an offence has the right

a) to be informed without unreasonable delay of the specific offence;
b) to be tried within a reasonable time;
c) not to be compelled to be a witness in proceedings against that person in respect of the offence;
d) to be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law in a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal;
e) not to be denied reasonable bail without just cause;
f) except in the case of an offence under military law tried before a military tribunal, to the benefit of trial by jury where the maximum punishment for the offence is imprisonment for five years or a more severe punishment;
g) not to be found guilty on account of any act or omission unless, at the time of the act or omission, it constituted an offence under Canadian or international law or was criminal according to the general principles of law recognized by the community of nations;
h) if finally acquitted of the offence, not to be tried for it again and, if finally found guilty and punished for the offence, not to be tried or punished for it again; and
i) if found guilty of the offence and if the punishment for the offence has been varied between the time of commission and the time of sentencing, to the benefit of the lesser punishment.
11(g) says that you can't be charged unless it was illegal when you did it. 11(i) says that if sentencing got more lenient or harsher between the time of your committing the act and the time of your sentencing, you're entitled to the lesser sentence. Neither of those says anything about letting you go or pardoning you for a crime you've already been convicted of, even if what you did isn't illegal any more.

What are you thinking of?

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Bah. That second blockquote should have a slash in front of it.

Either way, I'm sure you get which parts are mine and which aren't.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Ok, I was probably wrong about pardoning.

But you do get to go free, as the lesser sentance is now a non-sentance. Talking about 11(i) here.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If what you did was made not-illegal *between the time of commission and the time of sentencing*, yes.

If it was decriminalised *after* your sentencing, you have no such right.

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Date: 2005-10-21 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Oh.

I misread that.

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