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Soldiers in the US Army with only a short time left in their term of service are being told to re-enlist with a contract that will keep them in the Army and stateside until 2008, or they will be deployed immediately to Iraq for a year (regardless of whether or not their hitch is up in less than a year) after which time they will most likely be retained in the Army for three to four more years - whether they like it or not - due to a stop-loss order.

Basically, it's "Re-enlist voluntarily or you'll be sent to Iraq and then re-enlisted forcibly."

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Date: 2004-09-17 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
Slaaaavery.

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Date: 2004-09-19 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Um, yeah, that's what they signed up for. It's in fairly plain english actualy.

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Date: 2004-09-19 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Uh, no. The signed up knowing that a stop-loss order was possible. This is different - they're being told to re-enlist for LONGER than their original hitch (including an extension of the stop-loss limit until 2012) or else they'll be sent into combat and then stop-lossed anyway.

Transferring people to combat units = okay.
Stop-lossing combat vets = okay.
Extorting a signature on a contract by *threatening* transfer to a combat unit and stop-loss order = not okay.

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Date: 2004-09-19 11:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
When you sign up for the military, you give up your status as a person until the government chooses to release you. So they aggreed to anything that might be done to them at that point.

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Date: 2004-09-19 11:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
#1: Where the fuck are you getting THAT?
#2: You're dead wrong in so many ways it's not funny. You sign a contract that says you will not be treated as a *CIVILIAN*, but that is not, the same, at all, as giving up any of your rights, or saying that anything the government does to you from then on is legal. That is, in fact, such an asinine statement that I'm really having trouble even beginning to find a way in which it's NOT totally wrong.

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Date: 2004-09-20 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Ok, I'll admit, I'm talking about the canadian military. But I do know you're no longer counted under the charter here.

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