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[theweaselking]

Christian group sues SCU on the grounds that their religion requires them to be bigots, and SCU is violating their rights by not paying for them to do it.

Also,
Proving that 15-year-old girls really have no capability to make intelligent decisions, "Sugar" magazine presents their "top ten inspirational women of 2005", as voted on by their readers.

Also,
Florida student sues school board after teacher calls him "ungrateful and un-American", throws him out of class, for refusing to pledge allegiance to a state whose government he does not respect.

Comments

[ryusen.livejournal.com]

Well, Brittney Spears wasn't on the list at least .p

[corruptedjasper.livejournal.com]

Paris Hilton is worse. Britney isn't on there because they don't think she's inspirational, but because she's now a has-been.

[ryusen.livejournal.com]

The one credit i'll give to Paris Hilton is that she is trying to make her own money. Unfortunately it's by setting a terrible example, but unfortunatly, we can't do much about that.

Top 10?

[mhoye.livejournal.com]

For this, I have two words.

Stocked. Pond.

[thathatedguy.livejournal.com]

I am on the fence on the first story. First, the only reason I can see for a non-christian would want to join a christian organization is to make trouble.
Now, in this situation, the christian groups are not private groups. They are part of a public, state funded organization. Therefore, they need to follow the rules, to be sure, but I understand their frustration. They are doing it the entirely wrong way, however. They should open their arms to noon-christians, and let them join. Once joined, bombard them with recrutment tactics. Try to convert. Then, the non-christians that are trying to join solely to stir up trouble will get sick of the sappy bullshit these bastards spew and leave.
Leave the courts out of it, and enforce your ethics internally.
Basically, the groups are wrong to exclude non-christians, but the ones trying to join that are not christians are just trying to make a statement, and are breaking social moors, if not any laws or university rules.
I'm babbling. Don't mind me.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Notice how none of the Muslim, Jewish, Palestinian, Tamil, Chinese, Republican, Women's, Green, GLBT, or any other combination of religious, ethnic, or philosophical group is having any problem with this.

The Christian group is suing because they want to have the University pay for them to have a club where they can exclude everyone who doesn't subscribe to their particular narrowminded misinterpretation of scripture.

This is asinine, no matter who is doing it.

[paoconnell.livejournal.com]

The way religious organizations are normally handled at most campuses is that each religious organization has a meeting house, church, mosque, temple, storefront or other gathering place just off campus. Think of Hillel houses (Jewish), Aquinas centers (Catholic), and the like. Then there's no conflict of church and state, religious restrictions if any can be applied without problems (think Mormon temples) and everyone is more-or-less happy.

While the specific Christian group may want to restrict membership to their believers, they may have a really hard time "saving souls" of others if they do restrict. Counterproductive for them, but maybe a really good thing for the nonbelievers.

[thathatedguy.livejournal.com]

I just read another article, and the rest of the one you posted.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/education/20051201-9999-2m1sdsu.html
Now I have a better grip. I skikmed and assumed that they were reacting to non-christians trying to join, but it seems they are prempting that. It looks like a group of lawyers are hoodwinking some churches into donating to their charity that protects rights that are not being attacked. This Allience is also targeting the University iof North Carolina.
Guh. I still think that restricted membership clubs ahould be alllowed and protected, so long as they get no funds from a state funded organization, such as a school. If they were off campus and not getting any money from tax payers, discriminate away.

[desdenova.livejournal.com]

I note that nowhere in the article is there any indication that the religious groups had been targeted by "troublemakers" of the sort you describe. As far as I can tell (again, only from that article), they just want to be allowed to state "Christians Only" in their Student Organization charter.

[corruptedjasper.livejournal.com]

Also, it *is* possible for a non-christian to be friends with Christians, and thus want to join them in their activities.

[lurkerwithout.livejournal.com]

I need to go clubbing. And by that I mean I need "Sugar"s subscription list and a club with nails in it...

[paoconnell.livejournal.com]

On the Pledge of Allegiance issue: Jehovah's Witnesses haven't had to recite the Pledge anywhere for a long time. I suspect the Florida state law referred to in the article may be unconstitutional.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

The Florida law lets you out of it with an explicit signed parental permission slip.

It's probably unconstitutional ANYWAY, but it's not all-encompassing.