I love this website.

[theweaselking]

While micro-gravity is observed when, for example, dropping an egg on the floor, this does not prove that macro-gravity exists. Microgravity only makes stuff on earth fall. If there is macrogravity, why don't the sun, the moon, and the planets all fall down and hit the earth? Heavenly bodies do not fall, obviously, because there is no macrogravity. Some say that planetary orbits are proof of gravity. According to gravitationalists, gravity applies in a straight line between different objects; gravity does not make things spin in circles. But the planets do move in circles, and then they say such orbits prove macro-gravity. This is mere circular reasoning.
- Ellery Schempp, the Re-Discovery Institute, from the "Gravity Is Just A Theory" page.

Comments

[zenten.livejournal.com]

I'm still disturbed by the debate I had with a creationist friend of mine with a biology degree.

[rimrunner.livejournal.com]

How does that even happen?

[sivi-volk.livejournal.com]

Damn, that icon's funny.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

I wish I knew. The worst thing is outside of arguments of religion or politics, he's really reasonable and intellegent.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Creationist, as in "young-earth Bible-is-literal evolution-doesn't-happen creationist"?

He can't possibly have understood enough to have gotten a biology degree. I'd call his bluff on that, and check the accreditation of the "school" he claims to have gotten it from.

Of course, if he's a "the world is real, evolution happens, but God created it all", he'd still be a creationist, but a reasonable sort. It's even possible to be a Last Tuesdayist[1] Creationist and get a biology degree, technically.

[1]: The belief that the universe was created, in it's present state, with all evidence of the past faked perfectly by an omnipotent force, sometime Last Tuesday.

[zenten.livejournal.com]

First kind, and he's a vetrinarian, and I've had several other people verify his identity.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Veterinary medicine is *not* biology, and to be an adequate vet (not a good one) requires only that you accept that the cures work, not that you understand why they work and where they come from.

For the same reasons, you'll get biochemists like Behe, who haven't the slightest clue about microbiology, claiming that their degree is somehow applicable to the field they're making stupid statements about.

[waterspyder.livejournal.com]

It usually requires 2 years of a biology background if you're smart. A full degree if you're an average person.

In Canada they make you study evolution in both of those time frames.

[jerril]

I was recently startled to discover a friend of mine is a young earth creationist. After a bit of discussion, I discovered his objections to the theory of Evolution include such things as "carbon dating can be off by up to 250 000 years", and "it can't explain the big bang".

He didn't believe me when I tried to point out that the theory of evolution only covers the origin of species, not the origin of life, the universe and everything.

I weep.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

So... the fact that he hasn't read how carbon dating works, he hasn't read any of the Big Bang theory, and he doesn't understand the difference between astrophysics, abiogenesis, and biology means that his bullshit explanation that DOESN'T match any of the facts must be true?

Did you ask him why he doesn't believe that the invisible pink unicorn that lives in my TV created the world and everything in it last Tuesday?

[jerril]

No, I'd pretty much reached the point that my blood pressure was rapidly escalating out of horror, and if the conversation had gone on any longer I'd have had one killer nosebleed, and possibly a stroke.

So we agreed to talk about something else entirely, before the friendship went entirely in the gutter.

[desdenova.livejournal.com]

I realize that's a satire, but it still makes my head hurt to read it.

[matgb]

Website: Nice content, shame about the design and layout. Ah well, I love the periodic table