I expect jizzbondo will come over to hit you over the head with the first volume any minute now, because I remember him being extremely voluble about that GRRMartin fellow over on the froup. Simile others.
I have posted about GRRM many times, slap nuts. It's about time you found him. I have trouble reading fiction, thanks to my damaged attention span and inability to accept medocrity, but after I read the first three chapters of A Game of Thrones, I was hooked like a salmon trying to return lost eggs to the spawning area, only to be reeled in, and smoked.
Where the fuck did I just go?
I'm off to make some coffee and shake off the stupid.
But, yeah, read and fall in love with some wonderful characters. I know for a fact that you will totally dig Tyrion Lannister.
Yeah, I'm definitely liking Arya. In fact, I'm liking pretty much everyone, and the fact that almost everyone whose perspective he's writing from is somehow marginalized is making the insight seem less expository and the immediate struggles seem more engaging.
Mind you, it only just dawned on me that, if I am understanding John's summary correctly, Lannister would have been a Kingsguard. That looses him almost all points right there, and he is failing to be a Stoneface Vimes in other regards. I am feeling I can safely file him in the Vile Regicide category.
It's not quite as engaging as Kay, but I'm only at the point where Arya and Jon are bemoaning (understandably, I think) the lots they have been born to, and I'm about as wrapped up now as I was at this point in A Song for Arbonne. (And judging by stuff I caught while I was flipping back to find my page, yes, the Imp of Lannister should prove interesting.)
I like Edward as well, though I'm worried about him; the dire wolf did die with an antler in her throat, after all. And I'm preparing to like Dany; hoping she'll turn into someone if she can avoid living in a (justifiable) state of constant cringe.
Viscerys, I expect to enjoy watching. I expect, in fact, that he is going to go through merry hell, possibly self-inflicted, possibly unknowing, and I will take great delight in watching it happen to him because he is a terrible terrible terrible spoilt self-entitled vicious bastardly little wretch. Same applies to the poison Lannister twins, possibly with a bit less self-infliction.
John assures me that the Hound gets better. I am quite sure at this point tha he could hardly get worse, as last I saw him Mycah and Lady had been written out of the story.
The rest... there are things I don't like about them as people, but I like them very much as characters. Catelyn and Tyrion are up there for that, I think.
Yes, the Prince of Guts has just been shoved onto his sorry over-entitled ass and made to walk back to camp.
D'you mean Bran? Rikkon's the youngest Stark, but he's only three so he's almost not there. Are we talking Summer's owner, or Shaggydog's--
--actually, that question practically begs for something approaching a spoiler. If something happens to Rikkon, I'd prefer no foreshadowing save what's in the book. Need to get through these quickly.
Kay is another favorite author of mine, but I'd put Martin (at least his second and third books, which I thought were his best) above Kay. His prose isn't as good, his storyline is more complex and I find his characters more interesting.
If the /Thrones/ series continues this way, I may put it above /A Song for Arbonne/, but not quite equal to /Tigana/. Still, it's early days yet--I've just found out how the Hound had his face burnt--and he may improve.
I'm finding some of his characters a little stiff in places, but I'm still getting the impression of well-thought-out characters rendered by someone who's not quite as good at description as he could be, rather than poor charcters. This is odd, but probably an indication of how quickly I've been drawn in.
I got to snuggle him (http://missysedai.livejournal.com/580653.html). So there.
(It took me two tried to get into his stuff. The first time, I guess I just didn't stick with it long enough. Then dscotton started nagging the hell out of me, so I tried again to shut him up...and got hooked. I was apparently in the right frame of mind by then.)
Specifically, I've mentioned Fevre Dream, his novel about vampires on the Mississippi back in the 1850s, and The Armageddon Rag, the grand reunion of the 60s rock band Nazgul and the nigh-apocalyptic consequences.
I didn't really push them, because you don't like horror as much as I do, and FWIW they weren't quite as engaging as A Game of Thrones. And I didn't tell you about A Game of Thrones because it falls into the loose broad category of sword-era fantasy, so I never picked it up.
I was gonna say, quick, someone enlighten him about this Terry Pratchett fellow as well! Or that Neil Gaiman chap! All these blasted newcomers, it's so hard to keep track... ;)
And, randomly, your GW icon rocks my socks. I've seriously considered having that carved on my tombstone someday. :D
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:05 pm (UTC)Thise are just too cute.
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:25 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-01 05:26 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-01 05:10 pm (UTC)Where the fuck did I just go?
I'm off to make some coffee and shake off the stupid.
But, yeah, read and fall in love with some wonderful characters. I know for a fact that you will totally dig Tyrion Lannister.
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:25 pm (UTC)And yeah, Tyrion Lannister is good. They're all good, so far - even the ones being dumb and acting like 8-year-olds usually are 8-year-olds.
(Just finished A Game Of Thrones yesterday, and Hedge Knight this morning. Will have to buy the others later.)
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-01 06:40 pm (UTC)Mind you, it only just dawned on me that, if I am understanding John's summary correctly, Lannister would have been a Kingsguard. That looses him almost all points right there, and he is failing to be a Stoneface Vimes in other regards. I am feeling I can safely file him in the Vile Regicide category.
It's not quite as engaging as Kay, but I'm only at the point where Arya and Jon are bemoaning (understandably, I think) the lots they have been born to, and I'm about as wrapped up now as I was at this point in A Song for Arbonne. (And judging by stuff I caught while I was flipping back to find my page, yes, the Imp of Lannister should prove interesting.)
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Date: 2006-05-01 07:51 pm (UTC)And he killed King Aelys and turned over the castle to Eddard Stark.
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Date: 2006-05-02 01:50 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-02 02:44 am (UTC)Viscerys, I expect to enjoy watching. I expect, in fact, that he is going to go through merry hell, possibly self-inflicted, possibly unknowing, and I will take great delight in watching it happen to him because he is a terrible terrible terrible spoilt self-entitled vicious bastardly little wretch. Same applies to the poison Lannister twins, possibly with a bit less self-infliction.
John assures me that the Hound gets better. I am quite sure at this point tha he could hardly get worse, as last I saw him Mycah and Lady had been written out of the story.
The rest... there are things I don't like about them as people, but I like them very much as characters. Catelyn and Tyrion are up there for that, I think.
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Date: 2006-05-02 03:15 am (UTC)I can't remember all of the characters - it's been at least a year since I read the books.
Viscerys is the other Targaryon, right? Don't get too attatched. Oh, and whossname, the youngest Stark, who had that accident? He gets interesting.
Crows and corn.
Date: 2006-05-02 09:52 am (UTC)D'you mean Bran? Rikkon's the youngest Stark, but he's only three so he's almost not there. Are we talking Summer's owner, or Shaggydog's--
--actually, that question practically begs for something approaching a spoiler. If something happens to Rikkon, I'd prefer no foreshadowing save what's in the book. Need to get through these quickly.
Re: Crows and corn.
Date: 2006-05-02 04:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-02 03:17 am (UTC)Kay is another favorite author of mine, but I'd put Martin (at least his second and third books, which I thought were his best) above Kay. His prose isn't as good, his storyline is more complex and I find his characters more interesting.
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Date: 2006-05-02 09:55 am (UTC)I'm finding some of his characters a little stiff in places, but I'm still getting the impression of well-thought-out characters rendered by someone who's not quite as good at description as he could be, rather than poor charcters. This is odd, but probably an indication of how quickly I've been drawn in.
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:40 pm (UTC)It Fukin rules.
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Date: 2006-05-01 05:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-01 06:31 pm (UTC)His s&s-setting, newer work; hells yes.
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Date: 2006-05-01 06:28 pm (UTC)(It took me two tried to get into his stuff. The first time, I guess I just didn't stick with it long enough. Then
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Date: 2006-05-01 07:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-02 03:10 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-02 03:16 am (UTC)Almost single-minded, even!
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Date: 2006-05-01 06:30 pm (UTC)Specifically, I've mentioned Fevre Dream, his novel about vampires on the Mississippi back in the 1850s, and The Armageddon Rag, the grand reunion of the 60s rock band Nazgul and the nigh-apocalyptic consequences.
I didn't really push them, because you don't like horror as much as I do, and FWIW they weren't quite as engaging as A Game of Thrones. And I didn't tell you about A Game of Thrones because it falls into the loose broad category of sword-era fantasy, so I never picked it up.
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Date: 2006-05-01 09:59 pm (UTC)I'm having trouble getting throught the last two books, though. They're just such bloody downers.
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Date: 2006-05-02 05:00 am (UTC)...someone just move your rock?
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Date: 2006-05-02 09:15 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-05-02 07:45 pm (UTC)And, randomly, your GW icon rocks my socks. I've seriously considered having that carved on my tombstone someday. :D