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Why have none of you people told me of this "George RR Martin" fellow before?

Also:

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
I expect [livejournal.com profile] jizzbondo will come over to hit you over the head with the first volume any minute now, because I remember him being extremely voluble about that GRRMartin fellow over on the froup. Simile others.

Thise are just too cute.

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
... as I think about that and answer my own question.

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thathatedguy.livejournal.com
I have posted about GRRM many times, slap nuts. It's about time you found him. I have trouble reading fiction, thanks to my damaged attention span and inability to accept medocrity, but after I read the first three chapters of A Game of Thrones, I was hooked like a salmon trying to return lost eggs to the spawning area, only to be reeled in, and smoked.




Where the fuck did I just go?


I'm off to make some coffee and shake off the stupid.


But, yeah, read and fall in love with some wonderful characters. I know for a fact that you will totally dig Tyrion Lannister.

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Ah, YOU'RE the one with the Winter Is Coming icon. I couldn't remember who it was.

And yeah, Tyrion Lannister is good. They're all good, so far - even the ones being dumb and acting like 8-year-olds usually are 8-year-olds.

(Just finished A Game Of Thrones yesterday, and Hedge Knight this morning. Will have to buy the others later.)

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thathatedguy.livejournal.com
And I also have this icon.

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Date: 2006-05-01 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm definitely liking Arya. In fact, I'm liking pretty much everyone, and the fact that almost everyone whose perspective he's writing from is somehow marginalized is making the insight seem less expository and the immediate struggles seem more engaging.

Mind you, it only just dawned on me that, if I am understanding John's summary correctly, Lannister would have been a Kingsguard. That looses him almost all points right there, and he is failing to be a Stoneface Vimes in other regards. I am feeling I can safely file him in the Vile Regicide category.

It's not quite as engaging as Kay, but I'm only at the point where Arya and Jon are bemoaning (understandably, I think) the lots they have been born to, and I'm about as wrapped up now as I was at this point in A Song for Arbonne. (And judging by stuff I caught while I was flipping back to find my page, yes, the Imp of Lannister should prove interesting.)

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Date: 2006-05-01 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Jaime Lannister, yes, was a Kingsguard, sworn as a knight and then again to protect the royal bloodline until his last breath.

And he killed King Aelys and turned over the castle to Eddard Stark.

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Date: 2006-05-02 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Arya and Jon are two of the small number of characters who don't put my teeth a bit on edge.

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Date: 2006-05-02 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I like Edward as well, though I'm worried about him; the dire wolf did die with an antler in her throat, after all. And I'm preparing to like Dany; hoping she'll turn into someone if she can avoid living in a (justifiable) state of constant cringe.

Viscerys, I expect to enjoy watching. I expect, in fact, that he is going to go through merry hell, possibly self-inflicted, possibly unknowing, and I will take great delight in watching it happen to him because he is a terrible terrible terrible spoilt self-entitled vicious bastardly little wretch. Same applies to the poison Lannister twins, possibly with a bit less self-infliction.

John assures me that the Hound gets better. I am quite sure at this point tha he could hardly get worse, as last I saw him Mycah and Lady had been written out of the story.

The rest... there are things I don't like about them as people, but I like them very much as characters. Catelyn and Tyrion are up there for that, I think.

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Date: 2006-05-02 03:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
The hound does get better. And Tyrion Lannister (the dwarf, yes?), I like him a bit.

I can't remember all of the characters - it's been at least a year since I read the books.

Viscerys is the other Targaryon, right? Don't get too attatched. Oh, and whossname, the youngest Stark, who had that accident? He gets interesting.

Crows and corn.

Date: 2006-05-02 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Yes, the Prince of Guts has just been shoved onto his sorry over-entitled ass and made to walk back to camp.

D'you mean Bran? Rikkon's the youngest Stark, but he's only three so he's almost not there. Are we talking Summer's owner, or Shaggydog's--

--actually, that question practically begs for something approaching a spoiler. If something happens to Rikkon, I'd prefer no foreshadowing save what's in the book. Need to get through these quickly.

Re: Crows and corn.

Date: 2006-05-02 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Forgot about Rikkon and Shaggydog. I meant Bran.

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Date: 2006-05-02 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dscotton.livejournal.com
Arya is completely awesome.

Kay is another favorite author of mine, but I'd put Martin (at least his second and third books, which I thought were his best) above Kay. His prose isn't as good, his storyline is more complex and I find his characters more interesting.

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Date: 2006-05-02 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
If the /Thrones/ series continues this way, I may put it above /A Song for Arbonne/, but not quite equal to /Tigana/. Still, it's early days yet--I've just found out how the Hound had his face burnt--and he may improve.

I'm finding some of his characters a little stiff in places, but I'm still getting the impression of well-thought-out characters rendered by someone who's not quite as good at description as he could be, rather than poor charcters. This is odd, but probably an indication of how quickly I've been drawn in.

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psyco-path.livejournal.com
Honestly, I just got the first one like 2 months ago.

It Fukin rules.

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Date: 2006-05-01 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
So this George RR Martin fellow is worth reading?

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Date: 2006-05-01 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
His modernish-setting, older work; probably.

His s&s-setting, newer work; hells yes.

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Date: 2006-05-01 06:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
I got to snuggle him (http://missysedai.livejournal.com/580653.html). So there.

(It took me two tried to get into his stuff. The first time, I guess I just didn't stick with it long enough. Then [livejournal.com profile] dscotton started nagging the hell out of me, so I tried again to shut him up...and got hooked. I was apparently in the right frame of mind by then.)

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Date: 2006-05-01 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I remember you snuggling him and asking him about frozen zombies. I just hadn't picked up his books before.

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Date: 2006-05-02 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dscotton.livejournal.com
You left out the five intervening years between the time I started to nag you and the time you actually picked up the book again. =)

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Date: 2006-05-02 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
Yeah, you were pretty persistent!

Almost single-minded, even!

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Date: 2006-05-01 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I have.

Specifically, I've mentioned Fevre Dream, his novel about vampires on the Mississippi back in the 1850s, and The Armageddon Rag, the grand reunion of the 60s rock band Nazgul and the nigh-apocalyptic consequences.

I didn't really push them, because you don't like horror as much as I do, and FWIW they weren't quite as engaging as A Game of Thrones. And I didn't tell you about A Game of Thrones because it falls into the loose broad category of sword-era fantasy, so I never picked it up.

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Date: 2006-05-01 09:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
I thought you knew.

I'm having trouble getting throught the last two books, though. They're just such bloody downers.

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Date: 2006-05-02 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
Why have none of you people told me of this "George RR Martin" fellow before?

...someone just move your rock?

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Date: 2006-05-02 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Are you mocking my rock?

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Date: 2006-05-02 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] takhisis.livejournal.com
I was gonna say, quick, someone enlighten him about this Terry Pratchett fellow as well! Or that Neil Gaiman chap! All these blasted newcomers, it's so hard to keep track... ;)

And, randomly, your GW icon rocks my socks. I've seriously considered having that carved on my tombstone someday. :D

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