"It is much worse for women in the south. I blame the British for not taking a strong stand."
And if they HAD taken a strong stand, what do you want to bet the complaint would be that how dare they, it is none of their business, how can they disrespect Islam and the culture like that?
This is the problem. I consider myself to be an open-minded and tolerant person, but I find it very difficult sometimes to justify tolerance toward a set of beliefs that deems half of humanity - MY half, no less - to be little better than cattle.
I remember chanting once: "We will not tolerate intolerance!" I just find it amzaing how soem of th emost closed minded and prejudiced people are the one that cry the loudest, when "their rights" to oppress others are dampened or criticized....
> And if they HAD taken a strong stand, what do you > want to bet the complaint would be that how dare > they, it is none of their business, how can they > disrespect Islam and the culture like that?
Of course there would have been that complaint. Hell, you get that complaint now when women don't act like someone thinks they should, in Canada and the US, and not from Muslims or about Islam.
But if the situation had stayed as it was, then the complainers might have had dissenting opinions expressed at them, and less women might have been openly murdered for doing things like holding jobs.
> This is the problem.
What, that extremists would have bitched and whined about how they weren't being allowed to enforce misogyny, and would have dressed it up as crying out for religious freedom?
I consider that a problem, yes, but I consider it a problem in the same way that I consider it a problem that pedophiles complain about how people keep interfering with "the liberation of children", or the way misandrists insist that anyone objecting to them is opposing the sacred cause of feminism.
That a bunch of judgemental, prejudiced, opportunistic gits have claimed the label of a set of beliefs does not mean that their behaviour is representative of those who follow said beliefs.
> I consider myself to be an open-minded and tolerant > person, but I find it very difficult sometimes to > justify tolerance toward a set of beliefs that deems > half of humanity - MY half, no less - to be little > better than cattle.
Agreed completely. Which is why I have a much greater problem with the current situation and the lack of things which were done to prevent it than I did with the situation in Basra before the invasion.
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Date: 2006-06-08 05:14 pm (UTC)...surprise.
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Date: 2006-06-08 07:32 pm (UTC)Freedom is for those whose existence as a person is not overridden by the fact that they can be fucked and bred.
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Date: 2006-06-08 07:38 pm (UTC)And if they HAD taken a strong stand, what do you want to bet the complaint would be that how dare they, it is none of their business, how can they disrespect Islam and the culture like that?
This is the problem. I consider myself to be an open-minded and tolerant person, but I find it very difficult sometimes to justify tolerance toward a set of beliefs that deems half of humanity - MY half, no less - to be little better than cattle.
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Date: 2006-06-08 09:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2006-06-09 02:01 pm (UTC)> want to bet the complaint would be that how dare
> they, it is none of their business, how can they
> disrespect Islam and the culture like that?
Of course there would have been that complaint. Hell, you get that complaint now when women don't act like someone thinks they should, in Canada and the US, and not from Muslims or about Islam.
But if the situation had stayed as it was, then the complainers might have had dissenting opinions expressed at them, and less women might have been openly murdered for doing things like holding jobs.
> This is the problem.
What, that extremists would have bitched and whined about how they weren't being allowed to enforce misogyny, and would have dressed it up as crying out for religious freedom?
I consider that a problem, yes, but I consider it a problem in the same way that I consider it a problem that pedophiles complain about how people keep interfering with "the liberation of children", or the way misandrists insist that anyone objecting to them is opposing the sacred cause of feminism.
That a bunch of judgemental, prejudiced, opportunistic gits have claimed the label of a set of beliefs does not mean that their behaviour is representative of those who follow said beliefs.
> I consider myself to be an open-minded and tolerant
> person, but I find it very difficult sometimes to
> justify tolerance toward a set of beliefs that deems
> half of humanity - MY half, no less - to be little
> better than cattle.
Agreed completely. Which is why I have a much greater problem with the current situation and the lack of things which were done to prevent it than I did with the situation in Basra before the invasion.