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As of an hour ago, Kim Jong Il has nukes.

The good news: Now Americans need not worry about being drafted to go to war in Korea, because Bush is too cowardly to risk bullying anyone who could hit back, and anyone but Bush will be too smart.

The bad news: North Korea is a nuclear power.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
I'm not sure I can feel bad about that. I see where the rest of the world is coming from when America says they can't have the technologies that we have, as if we're somehow better than them.

Granted, he's a crazy guy, but I don't think I trust him any less than i trust Bush at this point.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] coyotegoth.livejournal.com
If nothing else, I feel *fairly* sure that Bush won't nuke New York City/Honolulu/where have you.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
No, but I don't feel fairly certain he won't nuke Paistan or China and get us all killed. we're just as dead either way. At least if he nukes New York city I stand no chance of dying personally. If several other nations gang up on us I stand a very good chance.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I'm absolutely certain Bush won't nuke Pakistan or China. They have nukes, meaning they can threaten him *personally*, and therefore he won't touch them, because Bush is a coward.

Anyone who might theoretically be able to kill Bush himself is completely off-limits in American foreign policy. It's also why he's so eager to get to his chosen targets BEFORE they get nukes, so that he can send poor people to die instead of risking himself.

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Date: 2006-10-09 05:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Someone pointed out: Iran has signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, but India hasn't. Bush is selling nuclear technologies to India, but condemns Iran, which technically is still acting within its rights under the Treaty.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
Why is this any more threatening than when we spent decades under the threat of Soviet nuclear weapons? Sorry, I'm just no seeing this as anything but the unfortunate addition of another country to the nuclear family. Mutually assured destruction has been the only deterrant from using nukes anyone has needed for the last half century, and nukes the deterrant from more conventional warfare. That's all Kim Jong-Ill really wanted anyway. Now he's got it. Kim Jong-Ill is now assured that he won't be invaded because he's got the bomb, but, at the same time, is also playing by the rules of the nuclear powers now. We can go on and on about how wacko this guy is, but, sorry, he's not as wacko as Stalin and the Soviet Union had nukes 3-4 years prior to his death and we're all still here.

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Date: 2006-10-09 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I didn't say it was any more threatening.

I just felt it's news that's important or cool or interesting enough to share, which is my usual criteria for linking something.

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Date: 2006-10-09 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mightycodking.livejournal.com
He actually had them more than an hour ago. In fact he now has one less than he had an hour ago.

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Date: 2006-10-09 06:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
If you want to get pedantic about it.

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Date: 2006-10-09 02:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com
... of coruse he did, and I back him up on it. Pedantics is fun!

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Date: 2006-10-09 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xrmndml.livejournal.com
It may or may not have been a working nuclear bomb. If the majority of estimates are to believed then the bomb was only half of a kiloton which would be considered a "dud," but the russians do think it was 5-15 kilotons which would be more serious. If it was a dud, expect more tests until they get it right.

Hell, if it was only a 500 ton explosion they could have faked it, but I certainly don't belive that is the case.

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Date: 2006-10-09 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolston.livejournal.com
Who cares?

Seriously?

What the hell are they going to do with them?

They can't use them. They can't afford to keep them. There are probably a dozen spy satelites sitting over their little country. The best solution, watch them and say nothing. Not a word. Ignore them. When they want to talk don't respond. They want to live in a little isolated despotic state, let them. North Korea is not relevant.

The world went apeshit over this 8 years ago when Pakistan developed nuclear weapons of their own. And Pakistan is learning the same thing everyone else who ahdeveloped them. Nukes are nothing more than a giant, radioactive albatros that hangs from your neck and drains your country's coffers that you will eventually just have to destroy since if you ever use them your country becomes glass and everything you ever thought was of value is lost to the nuclear dust of time.

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