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[theweaselking]

Quoth the wisdom of goatmother

It's hardly much of a surprise that everyone wants nukes. You can't outspend the enemy in conventional warfare, look what happened to the last outfit that tried that (and never mind that that wasn't what did them in) so you'd better get something good and big to make damned sure they can't come hooring across your border to make you safe for democracy and Jeeeesus. It's actually surprising that more nations aren't doing this.

Similar dialogue, Middle East:

US: No, Iran, you can't make fucking nukes.
Iran: Nukes, us? What nukes?
US: Those ones, there.
Iran: It's a fucking powerplant, ignorant redneck infidel.
US: Yeah, but you can use it to make nukes.
Iran: Do we have to explain this in words of one fucking syllable, infidel mouth-breather? It's a power plant. We're building it to make power with.
US: Nucular power! That means nukes!
Iran: For fucking allah's sake, you ignoramuses, we signed the non-proliferation treaty. And for the record, we haven't attacked any of our neighbours in two hundred years, despite taking a great deal of shit off of them. Shit funded by you, as it happens, and don't think that's being forgotten any fucking time soon, asswipe.
US: Nukes! Nukes!
Iran: There are times when we wish we were Christians just so we could say Jesus Motherfucking Christ on a Fucking Bike. It's a powerplant. It's not meant to blow up, and it's a large building, not a frigging weapon.
US: Not meant to blow up? What about Chernobyl? Three Mile Island?
Iran: Picture us banging our heads on our desks right now. Those were trag-ic ac-ci-dents. Nuclear weapons are for de-lib-er-ate harm to-the-en-em-y. Of course, your record of harming people by accident is fucking tragic, so we can see where the confusion arises.
US: Nukes!
Iran: Go back to getting creepy with your pages or something. We tire of your bullshit, and have a powerplant to build.
US: And you're antisemites!
Iran: In case you hadn't noticed, it's Israel we've got a beef with. And, yeah, we don't like Jews either. That's not a reason to build nukes. Or to say we've got them. If Israel wants to mess with us they've got to get through a shitpot full of terrorists. You know, the one you're fucking stirring, right on our border? In fact, why are we even still fucking listening to your shit?
US: You're an Islamic state!
Iran: Well fucking DUH.
US: Nukes!
Iran: Fuck off.

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Comments

[itlandm.livejournal.com]

Actually, I was wrong. I so vividly remembered Iran supporting the Taliban that I did not even bother to look it up. You are totally right, Iran and Taliban were at each other's throats most of the time, despite (or because of?) them both being Islamic theocracies with a burkha fetish.
Point ceded.

[mazarinade.livejournal.com]

Meh. It's easy to get the impression that Islam is monolithic if you just watch the mainstream media. The reality is that there are massive differences between Shi'ite and Sunni, and between each of them and Ismaili, and there are a few smaller groups.

Even Sunni isn't monolithic, there are several traditions within that that are mutually exclusive. The problem one is the Wahhabi one, which started around the end of the 18th century. And that would have been a movement of quiet ascetics if one of its followers hadn't been one ibn-Saud, who went on to stage a coup over a piece of territory that just happened to have a shitload of oil under it. For about twenty years they've been using that oil money to fund schools in the poorer muslim countries - it's no coincidence that 'Taliban' means 'the scholars' - the original Taliban militia were alumni of various religious schools.