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Date: 2004-11-12 06:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thathatedguy.livejournal.com
I'm waiting for the Church of Scientology to sue itself for sucking so much that it generates the bad press that makee it... Christ, I just hurt myself.
Fuck Hubbard.
Fuck Travolta.
Fuck scientology.

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Date: 2004-11-12 06:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
OK, I'm confused. Google is a search engine. If the case did go to court, would they really be guilty of copyright infringement? To take it another way, there are a lot of sites online that I'm sure violates Lucasfilm's copyrights. I'm also sure that Lucasfilm directly contacts the worst offenders with a cease and desist order. But I'm also sure that Lucasfilm at least partially uses Google to find said worst offenders. The idea of suing the search engine for copyright infringement sounds too weird, to me.

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Date: 2004-11-12 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
They can't sue Xenu - they've tried, and the Dutch laughed them out of court. The DMCA, though, is so broad that you *can* sue a search engine for *linking to pages* that contain copyrighted material.

The DMCA applies not only to violators, but to people who link to violators.

Speaking of which, XENU! (http://www.xenu.net/) XENU! (http://www.xenu.net/) XENU! (http://www.xenu.net/)

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Date: 2004-11-12 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
I suspected as much.

It merely reinforces the belief that the DMCA is broken, and broken badly, but what's new?

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Date: 2004-11-12 07:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Also, what happens if Google links to pages that link to Xenu?

(Hehehehehehe.)

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Date: 2004-11-12 07:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Worse, Google would have to prove that Xenu does *not* violate copyright in order to not be held accountable - and while Xenu can prove that they're not violating copyright themselves and thus absolve Google of liability, doing so would require agreeing to be bound by a US court regardless of the outcome.

It's an absurd piece of legislation, written by idiots who know nothing about what they're legislating and are, in fact, just parroting what the marketing weasels who contribute to their campign tell them to say. It's just like CAN-SPAM and PATRIOT, that way.

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Date: 2004-11-12 07:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
I wonder if this will result in more of the internet not being based in the US.

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Date: 2004-11-12 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
At that point, I'm sure they'll start suing ISPs for not blocking Xenu.

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Date: 2004-11-12 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Wow. At that point, what would be the big difference in terms of your government, and China's government?

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Date: 2004-11-12 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimrunner.livejournal.com
I notice that this article dates from 2002.

Any follow-up?

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Date: 2004-11-12 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Didn't notice that, myself.

There's this article (http://www.nypost.com/business/33449.htm), about how Google refuses ads from religious antiabortionists, frauds, tobacco companies, and the church of scientology.

There's also this (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=scientology), with a telling 2nd and 4ths top-level entry.

Speaking of google-fu, http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/ (http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/) is now the top item when you search for the word "santorum" (http://www.spreadingsantorum.com/). It's always good to see Dan Savage (http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=savagelove) get his way.

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Date: 2004-11-12 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] corruptedjasper.livejournal.com
I recently read a collaborative short story that was posted on thr internet, set in the near future when internet access in the US is very much china-ised and unrestricted feeds are brought in over the border from canada using wireless links and technoninjas/terrorists maintaining said links. Anybody know what that was?

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Date: 2004-11-12 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
The fact that the Scientologists aren't part of the government.

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Date: 2004-11-12 12:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryusen.livejournal.com
for example: the RIAA sucessfully sued 2600 (a news site) because it had a link to the deCSS code.

The DMCA is one of th emost poorly written and abusable laws we have...

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