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Discussion point:

The statement "It is not possible to hold a well-reasoned opinion on this subject that differs from mine."

It's a given that it is not a good stance to take on all subjects. It is a given because, well, it is not possible to hold a well-reasoned opinion on this subject that differs from mine.

But I have two questions for my vast home-reading audience: Upon what subjects do *you* hold this to be true, and upon what subjects is it *never* a good stance to take?

Ohh, relativism!

Date: 2004-11-17 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
(1) On the subject of what I'm trying to accomplish with my art (because while someone may have a logically valid train of thought which leads to an erroneous conclusion, I don't see how they could have it without ignoring the fact that I know what I'm trying to do, and ignoring something that big strikes me as a pretty glaring logical flaw).

(2) All other subjects. (Note that I am distinguishing between morally sound and well-reasoned, dammit; the former is much more prone to subjective valuing.)

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Date: 2004-11-17 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dolston.livejournal.com
1) My health is the single most important thing in my life. No health means nothing else.

2) Any other position, pretty much. I tend to be very open minded I think.

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Date: 2004-11-17 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
I think that it is never a good idea to take that stance, although just because a opinion is well reasoned, doesn't make it right :)

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Date: 2004-11-17 10:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
So you feel that my statement "It is not a good stance to take on all subjects" does not merit this treatment?

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Date: 2004-11-17 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Ok, I'm getting confused as to what you're refering to.

I don't think that the statement you put in quotations is a good stance to take, ever.

Hang on...

Date: 2004-11-17 11:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I believe he is saying that you are coming across as holding the point of view that

"It is not possible to hold a well-reasoned opinion on this subject that differs from mine" is an outlook which should never be taken.

and is asking if you are applying that point of view to the statement

"It is not a good stance to take on all subjects" (where "it" is "the idea that no well-reasoned opinion will be different than mine")

because if you are, it would mean you are saying

Multiple outlooks should always be considered possible, except when you are trying to figure out whether or not multiple outlooks are possible; in that case, there is only one outlook (the one which says multiple outlooks are possible).

It's one of those "How can you say nothing is absolute, when you claim that what you're saying applies to absolutely everything?" things.

I think.

Re: Hang on...

Date: 2004-11-17 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zenten.livejournal.com
Ok, here's what I'm saying.

No matter what opinion I may have on something, it is possible to have a well reasoned opinion that differs from it. It doesn't mean that opinion is correct, or that either opinion is correct, but simply that the differing view is well reasoned.

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