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Morally and intellectually bankrupt position? Don't worry! You can just INVENT entirely fictitious policy statements from Abraham Lincoln and use *them* to support your position!

Actual source of the quote: A writer for The Moonie Times Magazine, which he *claims* was never intended as a direct quote and an editor put the quotation marks around it - but, of course, it's the opening of the first sentence of his article and immediately followed by ", that's what Abraham Lincoln said".

Since then, it's appeared repeatedly, mostly in The Moonie Times and in the mouths of Republicans desperately trying to defend the indefensible, always cited as Lincoln despite being both idiotic AND blatantly falsified.

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Date: 2007-02-16 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
News Flash: Republican lies about something, using made up information to back their position. Refuse to back down even when proven to be big fat liar.

Later in the week: Some Democrat says something that is both insane and stupid. American people fail to notice either, to busy watching reports on celebrity death/marriage/birth/etc...

I take nap in order to avoid head a'sploding with anger...

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Date: 2007-02-16 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culfinriel.livejournal.com
That's ok. The person lecturing our class yesterday said that Republicans support monopolies and Democrats oppose them, and it's evident in the policies the Congress enacts under either majority. While that may be generally valid, it sort of ignores former president Theodore Roosevelt and his actions.

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Date: 2007-02-16 05:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You know, I really don't care about what Old Dead President Guy did while a member of your party, unless you're actually *still doing what he did*.

Republicans claiming Lincoln, for example, are idiots, because Lincoln worked pretty much entirely against the modern Republican platform, in every way. Brought forward a hundred and fifty years, Lincoln would punch them in the cock.

And I'd pay to see that on TV.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] culfinriel.livejournal.com
You wouldn't be the first person to point out that the Republicans of Lincoln were much more akin to what the Democrats have relatively recently claimed as their turf and vice versa. My only point about TR was that people like to proclaim that THINGS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY, which isn't so, and only dredge up the past when it suits them, as it suits them, which seems to be compatible with your point.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
All we need is Dr. Herbert West, the location of Lincoln's grave, and a camera.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
What luck! I've got TWO of those things!

If you get the third, we're set!

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toku666.livejournal.com
Anybody claiming Lincoln is an idiot.

He fought abolition in Congress for the better part of two decades, and instituted martial law in support of a morally bankrupt draft for a morally bankrupt war.

However, Lincoln would be a MAD cock-puncher, as his reach was enormous.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dilickjm.livejournal.com
Oh, it gets better.

Don "Bridge to Nowhere" Young (R-Series of Tubes), just had that quote read into the Congressional Record yesterday during the debate on the Iraq "surge".

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I thought Bridge To Nowhere and Series Of Tubes was Ted Stevens - but yeah, Young is the topic of the first link in my post.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toku666.livejournal.com
Right, but Stevens and Young are both from Alaska/Series of Tubes.

They're virtually indistinguishable as far as policy goes. It's not like Young thought the bridge was a bad idea.

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Did you hear the bit where the Republicans bitched out the Dems because their actions would've hurt Davy Crockett at the Alamo?

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Date: 2007-02-16 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] toku666.livejournal.com
Like Davy Crockett being a drunken racist didn't already hurt him enough?

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Date: 2007-02-16 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
No it was more "If Davy Crockett had gotten a message on his blackberry saying thatnks, but we don't support you, where would America be today". 'Cause, you know, the Alamo went so well.

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2007/02/remember_the_al.html

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Date: 2007-02-16 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Quote of the day:

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Sending 20,000 more troops to Iraq is like four more troops to the Alamo. I'm sure Davey Crockett would have appreciated the four more people and how a huge difference that would have made. They could have brought a spare battery for his Blackberry so he could call Congress back saying, "Are you fucking kidding me? Get me a god damn helicopter so I can get my ass out of here!"

But that would have just emboldened the Mexicans who just went ahead and slaughtered them anyway.
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