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Date: 2007-03-03 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] normanrafferty.livejournal.com
Everything that's wrong with modern superhero comics.

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Date: 2007-03-03 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
The fuck?

So, the message is that Tony Stark and Reed Richards were right? Captain America is apologizing for opposing registration though he thought it was the right thing to do? Is that what's happening? (I read through the rest of it)

If so, Marvel has seriously bolloxed up something I was liking (having read from the start of Civil War until around October).

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Date: 2007-03-03 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhoye.livejournal.com
Liking "Civil War" makes you a part of the metaproblem.

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Date: 2007-03-04 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Hey, some (some) of the earlier books had some social points similar to "Kingdom Come".

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Date: 2007-03-03 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lurkerwithout.livejournal.com
You have to applaud Paul Jenkins really. It takes mad skills to consistently write crap thats even stupider than the bullshit Mark Millar wrote for the regular Civil War book...

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamshade.livejournal.com
MARK MILLAR LICKS GOATS



(And Nextwave is everything that could be right about modern comics.)

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Date: 2007-03-04 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-church.livejournal.com
Hey, instead of just hotlinking my image, why don't you provide a link to my blog? (http://www.beaucoupkevin.com/2007/02/marvel-comics-in-insulting-readers.html)

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Date: 2007-03-04 01:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Hi - it is linked. The image itself is a link.

I could rehost the image if you'd prefer, or remove the image and replace it with a text link. Any preference?

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Date: 2007-03-04 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-church.livejournal.com
I'd prefer a straight text link, as that doesn't intrude on my bandwidth.

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Neither would my rehosting the image, but your image, your solution - image removed, text link in the place.

Sorry for the bother.

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-church.livejournal.com
Thank you.

And yes, I know about bandwidth. I have a bill to pay.

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Like I said, sorry to be an inconvenience. I don't rehost by default out of copyright concerns - not only do a lot of people get more mad about that, but they've actually got a strong legal claim if they want to bring it that way, which they don't have for hotlinking.

If bandwidth from images is a problem for you, you might want to consider one of the flat-rate image hosting services like Photobucket, where a paid account really doesn't care about the bandwidth it uses. As well, if hotlinkers are the problem, you should be able to disable that with some simple code on the host side, so that only your own site can get the images through img src tags.

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kevin-church.livejournal.com
Thank you for the lesson.

My suggestion: you don't fucking hotlink images.

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Date: 2007-03-04 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I'm sorry to have upset you. I've already explained why hotlinking is my preferred default when an artist's preferences are unknown and they allow it.

The suggestions above were made in good faith, for the purpose of helping you avoid problems like this in the future. I hope that you'll take them in the spirit they were offered.

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Date: 2007-03-05 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mhoye.livejournal.com
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

Have you heard of this thing called the internet? They've got pictures on it now.

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Date: 2007-03-04 01:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
The only redeeming feature I've found about this series is that it is (unintentionally?) rubbing America's shit in it's own face. It's not too hard to draw parallels between the (in this case literal) face of patriotism being subjugated (willingingly) for a slick, well-managed asshole with promises of safety and security. I bet if people sit down and read these again through the lens of someone who absolutely hates America they'd probably make a whole lot more sense.

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Date: 2007-03-04 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
Wow. Several panels after that, said by the same woman:

"The country I love treats its celebrities like royalty and its teachers like dirt. But at least I walk its streets every day. At least I know what it is."

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Shorter Reporter Lady: "You like freedom. No *real* Americans like freedom. You're too good for America."

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Date: 2007-03-04 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Frank Hague (1876–1956), U.S. mayor of Jersey City, N.J.
"We hear about constitutional rights, free speech and the free press. Every time I hear those words I say to myself, ‘That man is a Red, that man is a Communist.’ You never heard a real American talk in that manner."
Speech, 12 Jan. 1938, Jersey City Chamber of Commerce

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
How does it go? Those who give up liberty for a little temporary safety...

I cannot *believe* how angry I just got. I really can't.

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Date: 2007-03-04 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
She follows it up with something along the lines of "You broke that country. How are you going to fix it?"

My reply if I was Cap? "I'm not going to."

You know the world is coming to an end when I'm sympathizing with Captain America. No, strike that. If I'm ever caught sympathizing with Captain America and Cyclops, then the world's coming to an end.

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Date: 2007-03-04 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
What's wrong with Captain America? Hasn't he always tried to figure out what the right thing to do is and then do it?

It's not like he dumped his wife for his real true love.

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Date: 2007-03-04 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
I've just never liked the character. I think he's dry and boring. Like Cyclops.

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Date: 2007-03-05 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] james-nicoll.livejournal.com
Cyclops is a complete weasel. Cap isn't.

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Date: 2007-03-05 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Me, I've just sworn off Marvel.

I mean, I actually liked Captain America. And I hate this. And I hate everything I've seen about the tone of the comics. It's like anti-Incredibles, with moral justification ladled overtop.

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Date: 2007-03-05 03:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
I'm swearing off Marvel too. Unless, that is, someone (who might be me) re-reads these (Civil War) books and comes up with a detailed discussion of how it's a mirror of life in America since 9/11 starring Tony Stark as George Bush.

But then I'll still have to get over the idea that in the decades since Marvel started there haven't been enough deaths to top 600 kids (did you think it would be adults??) from Stamford (Harlem? Compton? yeah right!).

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
*goes, reads*

That's a *quote?*

That's a fucking *quote*?

That celebration of the safely mediocre because if half of America plus one has enough left over at the end of the workweek for a blowjob and time to watch the Sex Puppets and the demand that you *let* me be irrelevant if I want to and you take your ideals and get them out of my face no matter what or where or how important they were supposed to be--that's a *quote?*

To hell with it.

I quit.

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Date: 2007-03-04 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Quick suggestion: given that the guy who C&P'd the panels and added that line at the bottom prefers the image not be hotlinked, can you add a quick description? Something like "Click for a one-page summary of Marvel's epic message"?

Because I think it's actually worth catching if you care about that kind of thing, and the text link doesn't indicate what it's a link to.

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Date: 2007-03-04 03:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
He prefers that the image not be shared at all, in fact, not that I rehost and relink.

Which I'm okay with.

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Date: 2007-03-04 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
I know. I was just referring to the hotlinking because it was the initial state of the post, and rehosting never happened. (Still think the description would help.)

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