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[theweaselking]

Think the irrational abortion fundies making laws are restricted to the USA? Think again.

silmaril puts this very well:

Girl is four months pregnant. It is found out that the baby has anancephaly: Means that the baby will be born without a forebrain and very likely die within three days. Girl cannot get abortion, because in Ireland this is verboten except when the mother's life is threatened. Girl cannot go to Britain to get an abortion, because---and I am still not clear how---a health service executive made a request to the police to prevent her from leaving the country. The only way I can describe some of the mentality exhibited there is "FUBAR": "A psychiatrist appointed by the HSE said that the teenager was distraught at the diagnosis, but not suicidal, and therefore did not meet the criteria for being allowed a termination."

...So if she had threatened suicide, they would have let her not have five months more of hardship and trouble for the certainty of heartbreak in the end? Do these people, like, hear what they are saying?

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[interactiveleaf.livejournal.com]

*shrug* It's Ireland. The country is Constitutionally Roman Catholic. This situation exists in many predominantly RC countries.

It does suck to be a victim of it, and I'm glad she's fighting for progress. But this has been status quo for longer than I've been alive.

Censorship is also alive and well there--I have relatives who came to the States to watch banned movies with me. The Church isn't keen on Monty Python's The Life of Brian, did you know that?

[elffin.livejournal.com]

Ireland is also part of the EU, so while they may be constitutionally RC, they're getting their asses handed to them when people challenge policies and laws that violate EU laws.

It just doesn't happen terribly often that someone takes it to the EU.

[interactiveleaf.livejournal.com]

Huh. I didn't know that the EU had laws, as such, that related to this sort of thing.

I knew that there were policies in place--that's what all the fuss about whether Turkey gets admitted or not is about, right?--but actual laws, I'm surprised about. I am surprised that Spain, Portugal, Italy *or* Ireland joined under those conditions.

[kali-kali.livejournal.com]

The EU has laws on everything. There was even a time that they were considering legislating the low-cutness of female waitstaff's shirts, on the premise that if they wore too little clothing outside while serving outside in the sun, they could get skin cancer or something.

[thathatedguy.livejournal.com]

DOn't you understand? God works in mysterious ways. He has five months to perform a miracle. If He doesn't, then the experience is meant to try the young woman's faith.
Sheesh, sometimes I wonder about you.

Yes, I'm pissed as well. The whole thing makes me crazy fucking sick that I share as much DNA code as I do with these cerebral troglodytes.

[unknownpoltroon.livejournal.com]

Plus, this baby will provide much suffering, which will drive more money/followers to the church.

[thathatedguy.livejournal.com]

Amen.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

File that under F for Fucked Up.

No matter what your stance is on the right to choose or the right to life, forcing a woman to carry what is effectively a dead baby is unethical and immoral.

I'm sorry. I've been watching your journal for awhile (was attracted to all the cool photos). This is the first time I've read something from you that produced such a visceral reaction of abject disgust from me.

[unknownpoltroon.livejournal.com]

What is even more fun, is on the off chance that this kid is able to breathe cause hes got enough of a spinal cord, wanna bet that due to the publicity, the Drs. wont be able to do the right thing and let it die shortly after birth? That they'll have a brainless fucking piece of meat that will suck up resources and cause pain for the next 30 years.

[ironphoenix.livejournal.com]

And if she becomes suicidal now, will they deny it anyway because it's an obvious ploy?

*sigh* Can. Not. Legislate. Morality.

(Leaving aside the whole question of whether the abortion would in fact be immoral, on which I won't venture an opinion, not being sufficiently decided myself.)

[tsunami-ryuu.livejournal.com]

Let's keep it alive 'til birth so it can come out and suffer a few hours of pain before it dies!

[goblinpaladin.livejournal.com]

That's the Christian thing to do!