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Date: 2007-09-17 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
I stand by my assertion that the "Iraqi government" is about to find out that it has no control whatsoever as to whether or not Blackwater stays or goes.

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Date: 2007-09-17 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-dirt.livejournal.com
exactly.

We used the USMC to pound an entire city FLAT(fallujah) in 2004 because 4 Blackwater employees got snuffed there. Aint no way Bush/Cheney are gonna make their bully-boys dance to Iraqi music over this.

It'll just be another fucking footnote.

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Date: 2007-09-18 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownpoltroon.livejournal.com
Of course they do. They are a sovereign nation. I'm sure that any blackwater mercenaries that try to go there in the future will be stopped by the new, more pc sounding "darkstream freedom force" or whatever the new, improved, and completely different replacement company is..

/Bets 90% of them dont even change the name on their shirts.

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Date: 2007-09-18 08:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
We'll wait and see on that one.

I'll betcha dollars to donuts that not even that happens.



*loves me some pastries*

When I hovered

Date: 2007-09-17 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] speck.livejournal.com
I admit I was afraid it was an Onion report.

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Date: 2007-09-17 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
"They're famous for being very aggressive. They use their machine guns like car horns. But it's not the goal to kill people."

Casually firing a machine gun isn't intended to kill people? So where do the bullets go?

Also, why do people keep referring to them as a security firm? These guys drive around more heavily armed than the US troops (better Humvees but no tanks). They're mercenaries, not security guards.

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Date: 2007-09-17 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com
Because, by the strict letter of the law, they're not:

Concerning a legal definition of mercenary, the report notes that the currently accepted meaning or use of the term primarily focusses on professional services that are paid to recruit soldiers to intervene in an armed conflict in a country other than their own.... The SR stated that a revision of the legal definition of mercenaries should embody a concept that is broad enough to take into account the various types of crimes that are included in mercenary activities.

Taken from this UN report.

It's a technicality of the definition. Blackwater is hired, at least by the letter of their contracts, to protect private or foreign diplomatic persons and property. Bodyguard and high-risk transport service don't fall under the current definition of "mercenary" under international law.

-- Steve's thinking that'll probably change, given the "privatising" of tasks formerly performed by the US Army and Marine Corps in Iraq. And the notable abuses there perpetrated by "private security contractors".

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Date: 2007-09-18 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
Hmmm. Fair enough. I had thought they were calling themselves a security company because "mercenary" has a bit of a pejorative ring to it.

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Date: 2007-09-17 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] post-ecdysis.livejournal.com
According to the NPR report I just heard, mercenaries sell themselves out to the highest bidder, while Blackwater nobly sells itself out to the State Department. Perhaps we will come to learn that they are the military wing of the Republican party.

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Date: 2007-09-17 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
I thought the military was the military wing of the Republican party.

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Date: 2007-09-17 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rgovrebo.livejournal.com
Oh no, now they'll have to set up a whole new company to run exactly the same operation with exactly the same people!

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