I have seen the future.

The question I have is, why pitch to Fox in the first place, then? I mean, I dunno anything about tv studios at all, or how they work, but if Fox does this repeatedly (which they do, I will agree), then why bother with them? Why not pitch your show elsewhere?

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Because the other networks won't touch it - after all, sci-fi shows keep failing, and sci-fi movies don't make back their initial money on release.

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Pity. If only there were some sort of... "Sci-Fi Channel".

(I'm being snide at SciFi for being stupid as a tv station, not you.)

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If only there were some sort of "Sci-Fi Channel" that wasn't unremitting shit.

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flemco.livejournal.com

Um.

Theory #2: They're going to cancel it because it's going to suck.

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Also possible. However, they keep *taking* these sci-fi shows, meaning they're making money on them in the short term.

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flemco.livejournal.com

Not sayin', just sayin'. If there's one thing I'd bet cash money on right now, it's that this maggot-ridden, crushed-to-a-pulp rotting franchise isn't going to produce any more gems.

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Amen. If it were, they wouldn't have grabbed one of the current Princesses of Scifi and plastered her all over the posters.

Exactly what qualifies as an entire TV station jumping the shark?

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flemco.livejournal.com

Pretty sure Fox never was a really good station in the first place.

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No no, I know. I'm saying Fox has done so many things in the past (including this most recent one with Summer Glau) that I'm not sure what else they could do.

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kafziel.livejournal.com

I fail to see how this series could not be awesome. Summer Glau is playing a Terminator. There was a strip about this. (http://www.xkcd.com/311/)

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Apart from the fact that Summer Glau *sucks* at action and is in desperate need of a stunt double who can actually make fights look realistic, sure.

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Seconded. Summer Glau fighting makes for decent cinema, so long as you're willing to accept that she weighs 4 lbs, can't fight worth a damn, and what you're seeing is not a fight so much as a choreographed, fictional kicking of as much fictional ass as can fit on a screen.

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kafziel.livejournal.com

a choreographed, fictional kicking of as much fictional ass as can fit on a screen.

How does this differ from any fight scene ever?

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Summer Glau is bad at it?

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Clint Eastwood, Charlton Heston, Harvey Keitel, Steve McQueen, Bruce Willis, Chuck Norris and Jet Li could each kick the piss out of Summer Glau.

Twice.

Before lunch.

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One-handed.

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Fuck yeah.

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It *looks* fictional.

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boixboi.livejournal.com

I would remove the phrases "with geeks" and "sci-fi" from that statement, but otherwise you are absolutely correct.

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I think it's most prevalent among scifi geeks than most other viewer sets, though -- just because we tend to do the stations' 'viral marketing' for them much quicker and more enthusiastically. Hell, I think the only real rival we have in that regard are teenage girls re: pop idols.

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They did the same thing to Arrested Development, and killed Futurama because Matt Groening wouldn't sell them the rights. Fuck FOX.

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You are, in fact, my point.

/The Simpsons is total, unmitigated shit, and always has been. Next?

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Who the hell said anything about the Simpsons? It used to be the best thing on TV until Season Nine came out, but right now? It's total shit.

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You said "Futurama", which implies that you like Matt Groening.

And no, The Simpsons was never good. It was always completely worthless. It is anti-comedy.

I have never seen a Simpsons joke that hasn't been done somewhere else, better, first. The Simpsons is total, irredeemable crap. It has never been anything else, ever.

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Well, I submit that you're completely wrong and strongly question your appreciation for comedy.

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Your question has been entered into the record, and filed as evidence of your incompetence in such matters.

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Alright, then, what TV series are you watching that's funnier than seasons 3-8 of the Simpsons?

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Brisco County, Jr.
Dr. Who.
The Office.
House, M.D.
DEADWOOD.

(were they not out at the time? Who cares? The fact of The Simpsons being unoriginal and painfully unfunny is not changed by the presence or lack of competition. The Simpsons is still unoriginal and painfully unfunny. And I still have *never* seen a joke on The Simpsons that I can't place somewhere else, better, first.)

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At this point I question your claim to have actually seen it- though it's possible you've seen it in the past... oh, eight years, since it wen tto shit.

I, meanwhile, was unaware that any of those shows were comedies other than the Office- which is excellent, and made by one of the guys who was making the Simpsons back when it was funny. Of course, maybe that's your point. That, or you're reading as carefully as you were initially.

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I watched some of the original Simpsons episodes, when it first hit TV.

Since then, I've seen it, a few episodes a season, defined as "the best" of a season by Simpsons fans, every season so far. For the past TWENTY FUCKING YEARS. (give or take one year

Not ONE original joke that I couldn't place to an earlier non-Simpsons source.

Not ONE moment that wasn't funnier where I'd seen it the first time.

The Simpsons is ass. It has always been ass. It will never be other than ass.

And those shows may not have been comedies, but they were and are fucking hilarious, in comparison to The Simpsons.

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Dunno what to tell you, then.

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You know, I'd hesitate to call at least two of those comedies, although they do have beautiful moments of humour--

--oh, wait. Right. Sorry, missed your point.

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boixboi.livejournal.com

HOORAY! I almost talked about how much I hate The Simpsons in my reply, thank you for doing it for me.

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lafinjack.livejournal.com

I don't hate the Simpsons, I'm just heartily ambivalent towards it. Just another suck show to not waste my time on.

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normanrafferty.livejournal.com

That doesn't explain DRIVE.

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