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But no, obsession with homosexuality and fixation on the anus TOTALLY isn't the defining characteristic of American "conservatism". Not at all.

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Date: 2007-11-21 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
They just have a wide stance!

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Date: 2007-11-21 04:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
That has to be the most ludicrous excuse ever made.

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Date: 2007-11-21 03:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
It could also be that the traffic is mainly gays curious as to what a cnservapedia would write about them.(Even if we exclude outright manipulation by bots.) On a related note, finding "Sweden" amont the top 40 does not inspire confidence that the usage statistics represent the typical conservative...

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Date: 2007-11-21 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
... except when you consider that God Hates Sweden.

Which is another facet of the rabid homophobes.

While I agree it *could* be manipulated, given the history and actions of "the movement", I find it most likely that these really are legitimate statistics.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
So conservatives prefer reading about things they really, really don't like. That is intriguing, but certainly not impossible. I notice how tabloid newspapers tend to revel in disgusting things, and they sell like hotcakes.

I am still amused by the notion of American conservatism as potty training gone horribly wrong. It does not fit the conservative friends I have, really, they seem more interested in economics and Christian yoga than anal sex. But then again odd people have odd friends.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kjn
Yeah, but you're Norwegian, and everyone knows that Norwegian conservatives really are tree-hugging faggot-loving liburals and not True Conservatives(tm).

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
It's weird. There *are* places in the world, and Canada is sometimes one of them, where I'm considered anywhere from "centrist" to "conservative".

I simply abhor incompetence and the pursuit of ideology that doesn't match facts. This means I'm basically disqualified from supporting any of the supposed "conservatives".

I miss the PC party. Why is it so hard to get "economic sense" without "blatant irrational wasteful bigotry"?

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
At least our conservatives have got hunting rifles. Try carrying one of those in Sweden. No wonder the citizenry is terrorized by moose and bears, the eternal enemies of civilization.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Mere chemical-propellant rifles would avail you nothing in any case.

Moose are massive, ill-tempered, dangerous creatures. They've been known to crush small cars that displease them and walk away the winner of a collision at 100 kph with a minivan. They have an astonishingly high leap to get over fences, and their venom (which they can spit, accurately, to a range of about 10 meters) causes blindness if it gets in your eyes. Absent their natural predators, a single moose can lay enough eggs in a year to crowd out most native species in their niche and pose a serious danger to humans if they are not contained. (This is, incidentally, why you haven't heard any news from Lima in the last 5 years. It's not there. There are only moose.)

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
And don't get me started on the massive flooding caused by herds of moose throwing themselves off the cliffs into the fjords. As if driven by a collective, malevolent intelligence, they will do this in the early dawn when most villagers are asleep in their beds.

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Date: 2007-11-21 09:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aimisdirty.livejournal.com
Why do you think the Canadian Forces trains with 40mm high explosive grenades? It isn't like we're fighting a war or anything. The moose are cunning. We have to be prepared.

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Date: 2007-11-21 09:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kjn
The moose? *pfff*

It's not a coincidence that Sweden built up the fourth most powerful air force after World War II. It was not the limeys or the yankees or the ruskies that were the problem. It was the *mosquitoes*.

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Date: 2007-11-22 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] camilla-anna.livejournal.com
Venom??? ROFL.

You forgot the moose hatcheries. Upstate NY moose are stupid and need the fish and game department to help them reproduce successfully.

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Date: 2007-11-22 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
That's what they WANT you to think.
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Date: 2007-11-22 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanityimpaired.livejournal.com
Ikea. It's all Ikea's fault, for designed relatively easy to assemble furniture and not requiring a competency assessment to make sure they know how to use a screwdriver.

Get enough inept morons upset that you didn't put it together for them, and you get enough hostility to target an entire country.

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Date: 2007-11-22 03:33 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kjn
Our smug sense of well-deserved moral superiority.

To take but one example, a single not-to-large municipality in Sweden (Södertälje) has accepted more refugees from post-Saddam Iraq than the USA and Canada combined.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batzel.livejournal.com
Fixation on my own or on someone else's?

No, seriously though. Not everyone who thinks homosexuality is a 'sin' is a rabid homophobe. Like me! I'm a nice guy, but I still think it's wrong.

Which doesn't in any way reduce the humor value of the above image of conservapedia. Hee hee! Does that really exist?

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
I feel your pain. I have it the same way with greed. I am convinced that it is a sin but I don't blow up malls or assassinate CEOs. But the moment you say "Soon, God will eradicate capitalism from the face of the Earth" people look at you like you were some kind of lunatic.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Absolutely, it exists. Click the image, you'll go to the page live.

Not everyone who thinks homosexuality is a 'sin' is a rabid homophobe.

Not necessarily rabid, no, but absolutely, without doubt, occupying the same territory that anti-miscegenation proponents previously held, and anti-emancipation ones before that, and that Death To The Unbeliever sorts have held for millenia.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
And, in fact, the same territory that the people who read the bits of the Bible about Ham and his sons, and the ones who read where the Book of Mormon explains it in even more detail, and realise that dark skin is, in fact, God's punishment for sin that you just haven't repented of properly yet.

Is that absurd? If you think it is, then consider that it's given the same weight as the prohibitions against homosexuality, which are ALSO given the same weight as the prohibitions against pork, shrimp, and poly-cotton blends.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemco.livejournal.com
And let us not forget what Jesus said about abortion!

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Uh, nothing at all?

(Or is this about the guy who says that murder is murder, but for abortion you just have to pay the mother? I don't think that was Jesus.)

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemco.livejournal.com
Jesus said: Nothing. Not a damn thing.

You think, just maybe, just a tidge, if Jesus was really the motherfuckin' son of God Almighty, he might have said a few things about it, regardless of whether the practice existed yet.

Maybe?

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Date: 2007-11-22 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmseward.livejournal.com
These are the same omniscients that thought bats are birds, instead of mammals, though. (You'd think, if you had created them, you'd at least know this and dictate it correctly.)

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Date: 2007-11-21 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vagabond27.livejournal.com
This is the single best argument you can have against zealous fundamentalists.

Ask 'em what Jesus said about homosexuality and abortion, versus how many times he said to love your fellow man.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flemco.livejournal.com
I think wasting your life following the rules of an imaginary friend is a "sin."

But I forgive you. You'll find the truth out some day.

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
> I still think it's wrong.

Pure curious: why?

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Date: 2007-11-21 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
True, but he had it in quotes and was talking about everyone who thought of it that way. Speaking for himself, he said he thought it was wrong. (And God knows, I occasionally use religious expressions in online discussions.) Figured I'd ask.

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Date: 2007-11-21 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] batzel.livejournal.com
Religious views. Briefly though, I don't see it as any (significantly?) worse than similar "sins" such as extramarital or premarital sex. I do think those who're fixated on it need to stop considering it as some ultimate expression of doing wrong. We all do plenty of things wrong, so there's no reason to browbeat someone else about one thing; it typically means we're not paying attention to what we ourselves do wrong.

Anyway. Religious views.

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Date: 2007-11-21 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
*tips hat* Good enough. Thanks for the answer.

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Date: 2007-11-21 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thette.livejournal.com
Not everyone who thinks homosexuality is a 'sin' is a rabid homophobe. Like me! I'm a nice guy, but I still think it's wrong.

Then you're not a particularly nice guy. HTH. HAND.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larabeaton.livejournal.com
What the hell is "gay bowel syndrome"?

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leighdb.livejournal.com
Click and find out!

I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU.

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Date: 2007-11-21 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"Gay bowel syndrome is a clinical pattern of anorectal and colon diseases which occur with unusual frequency in homosexual patients"

Would Conservapedia lie to you?

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] larabeaton.livejournal.com
See, I thought it was something that conservative politicians and public figures could catch, and then be cured of when it goes public.

"Yes, I was soliciting gay sex in an airport men's room, but I can't help it! I suffer from Gay Bowel Syndrome!"

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Date: 2007-11-21 06:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
Ah! Like the homosexual male version of the Screaming Thigh Sweats?

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Date: 2007-11-22 02:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Okay, this was funny:

(the diseases are not exclusive to male homosexuals)

Okay. . . . Does that mean female homosexuals like to ass peg each other with their, er, uh, organs unknown. . . . Or did the author mean hermaphrodites?

I'm confused.

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Date: 2007-11-22 02:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I believe it means that male "heterosexuals" and females sometimes get these diseases.

However, the target demographic of Conservapedia *contains* no male heterosexuals, so they're speculating on that point.

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Date: 2007-11-23 05:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
*snort*

Y'know, this has dredged a forgotten memory. A friend of a friend used to own a convenience store here in town. Every so often he would note guys in suits and ties way too young to be wearing suits and ties. Turns out their concentrations corresponded with missionary work done by the local Mormons. Every time the local LDS temple held a mass convention for its missionaries, the store would sell out of gay porn.

For a store in a very gay neighborhood in Seattle, that's saying something.

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