I wonder if torturing animals is an early warning sign for anything.

[theweaselking]

Cat-killer arrested, taken to jail, but cuts plea bargain so that he can pursue his dream of joining the military and doing it to humans instead.

Bonus points: US Military happily makes exceptions, re-arranges schedules so that he can join up.

Comments

[mzdemonique.livejournal.com]

good; may be he'll die quickly and painfully as soon as he gets to iraq

[jezebel-z.livejournal.com]

No. It should be slow. I hope somebody finds him and cuts him into little pieces, starting with the extremities and cauterising each wound as they go. I hope they cut out his tongue and gouge out his eyes and bash his teeth in with bricks. I hope they leave him writhing in his own blood and excrement and I hope it takes him days to die. I hope that during his last days on earth he relives the suffering he caused a thousand times over - every single moment of primal fear and pain detonating in his mind.


...


Hello, my name is Jez, and I like cats a lot more than I like people.

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

Hello, my name is Jez, and I like cats a lot more than I like people.

Then you're a psycopath.

Have you reacted so strongly to the fact that your government has been complicit in the murder of tens of thousands of Iraqi and Afghan civilians?

[torrain.livejournal.com]

My understanding of the definition of "psychopath" (which has since been replaced with "sociopath", anyway) is that they don't like anything. Neither cats not people.

Maybe you meant "rabid misanthrope"?

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

Your understanding is incomplete.
http://ezinearticles.com/?Revisiting-The-Age-Old-Case-of-Diagnostic-Confusion-Sociopath-vs.-Psychopath&id=555698

Of course I think she's making a mithanthropic statement and probably being hyperbolic. Anyone who truly cares about animals more than people is emotionally retarded and I'll give her the benefit of the doubt that she is not. However, I made the statement to draw a parallel between her wish for violence and that perpetrated by the jerk in the story.

[torrain.livejournal.com]

Very well. *If* the individual exhibiting antisocial personality disorder does exhibit the characteristic "lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another," then is and remains my understanding that they don't like either cats or people.

(There may be an argument for taking the definitions of Dr. Hare over the definitions from the DSM-IV. However, I trust you will understand if I prefer to look into that myself, rather than merely adopting the preferred view of someone who drops into a conversation and tosses around vicious insults in the hopes of making a point. Thank you for bringing the alternate viewpoint to my attention.)

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

So it seems that I was being too generours when I gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you actually cared about the content of my comment. I assumed you weren't deliberately being obtuse but obviously I was wrong. Anyone who cares more about animals than people is mentally defective. Anyone who defends someone who would wish torture and mutilation upon another person is also menatally defective.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

You're surprisingly stupid.

In this case, the meaning of the word you were (mis)using is entire the point of this whole thread tangent, and she was neither caring more about animals than people nor defending someone who does.

She *did* care about the content of your comment - specifically, she questioning your use of the clinical term "psychopath", as well as correcting your spelling of it. The misspelling, of course, being another sign that you really probably didn't know what you were talking about. So she pointed out that you were using the wrong word, you argued your reason why it might be the right word, she said she'd look into that, and you called her stupid.

So. Right about now, the correct course of action is for you to reread your comments very carefully, realise that you're arguing against a statement that was never made, and apologise to torrain for being so stupid.

Are you going to do that?

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

Thanks, I rather not.

Whatever amusement value I thought I'd find after viewing your posts on a friend's friends page has certainly waned. I certainly used the term correctly in any but the most clinical sense and, arguably, even then. To play semantic games--and to suggest that a simple misspelling is germaine to discussing the primary point, is silly. If that's what passes for fun amongst your friends, I've grown weary of playing.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

And next time, remember: calling your host's wife "mentally defective" because you're not smart enough to understand a semantic disagreement? That's not very bright at all.

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

I posted a provocative response to a provoctative comment and a third-party jumped in and twice wanted to squabble about the semantics and not the message. I wasn't trying to piss all over your furniture. I've already said this ain't my cup of tea and I'll stay out of it so there's no need to hiss and spit.

[mzdemonique.livejournal.com]

Hi Jez. I guess I meant he wouldn't be in Iraq long before perishing. I'm all about him suffering, since I share your preference for animals over people. ;)

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Nope; unfortunately, he'll be a successful sailor and quickly climb up the ranks. All of today's military 'leaders' have a good amount of mental illness on their side.

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

YES, the link between animal abusers/torturers/killers as children, and doing it to humans later in life is well documented.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I'm quite aware of that. I was, in fact, pointing it out, unsubtly.

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

(Sorry... missed the sarcasm...
I seem to be sticking my foot in it quite a bit today... I'm gonna go over here and keep my mouth shut.)

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Heh, no worries. I was a little oblique.

[outerego.livejournal.com]

I can actually understand why he he did what he did: He knew that hitting a her would be _very_ taboo (too taboo) so he destroyed what she loved.
Imagine if she loved, say, a precious Ming vase, part of an ineffable collection - that is what he saw her cats as -something meaningful and valuable to her.
He was being clever - most people will say "it was just cats, FFS", but miss out just how cruel them loss will be to her.
As a (former) cat owner I know just how puissant her loss will be.

[larabeaton.livejournal.com]

Personally, I'd rather someone hit me than fling my cats across a room. Either way, they'd receive one metric ton of whup-ass, but I know I could survive such a thing and the cats couldn't

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I'd feel bad about pounding somebody who just punched me.

I wouldn't feel bad in the slightest about stomping someone who deliberately hurt my cat.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Killing animals because you're made at people is psycho, no matter how you couch it.

[atlasimpure.livejournal.com]

If he hit her, he'd still be in jail.

[larabeaton.livejournal.com]

Ummmm... both are bad.

his options weren't a) hit his girlfriend or b) throw her cats

he could have chosen to throw dishes, throw books, slam doors, kick walls, whatever. These are all ways of expressing anger without causing physical harm to anyone except yourself. While sub-optimal, they are all infinitaly better than what he chose to do.

And hey, he could have also chosen to deal with the situation like a fucking grown-up instead of a sociopathic toddler.

[atlasimpure.livejournal.com]

Heh, I was just pointing out the situational irony.

Also, depending on the state, throwing or hitting inanimate objects in her presence can get him charged with domestic violence AND destruction of property.


And, yes.

[wiseacre.livejournal.com]

Or simply leaving and getting his shit together.

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Ha! Only if she were the Virgin Mary, and his lawyer wasn't particularly good.

[atlasimpure.livejournal.com]

Depends on the state and the amount of harm inflicted.

Considering the amount of force neccessary to kill a cat just via chucking...I'm guessing he's not exactly a light-weight.

[kadath.livejournal.com]

He knew that hitting a her would be _very_ taboo (too taboo)

In what (wonderful) universe is hitting your girlfriend taboo?

[torrain.livejournal.com]

Pretty much what I was thinking.

(Abusing your SO is taboo in my social circle, but we're not the universe.)

[torrain.livejournal.com]

You know, I read this, and I thought sure you were linking to a retrospective piece on Bill Frith.