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Cold Fusion!

Hopefully, this one pans out. The guy who did it says it's reproducible, since he's done it repeatedly so far.

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Date: 2008-05-27 05:57 pm (UTC)
jerril: A cartoon head with caucasian skin, brown hair, and glasses. (Default)
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The trick is getting other people to do it repeatedly. After all, the folks with perpetual motion machines can do the trick on demand (As long as they have a chance to hide the electric motor somewhere nearby...)

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Date: 2008-05-27 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Yes, but if you're honest, doing it *yourself* three or four times to be sure it wasn't a fluke and getting the same wacky results every time is *good*.
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From: [personal profile] frith
Hey! I get down on my knees and pray to Yaweh and eventually my glasses just reappear, just like that! It's the same wacky result, at least three or four times. I'm honest, right? You believe me, right? I also cured my back pain with table sugar. I have at least two tea spoons of white sugar in my coffee every day and Hey! Presto! Two years later, no more back pain! You just gotta try it.
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
As I said, "if you're honest".

And the whole point is that, once you've duplicated it yourself a few times, then you share your procedure and OTHER people duplicate it, before it's considered Real Science(tm)

Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-27 07:53 pm (UTC)
frith: (caribougreen)
From: [personal profile] frith
Peer review and duplication, that's what I'm waiting for. Not publication via news conference. Thus the Baby Duck. Nas drovia! 8-)

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-27 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
It's gone through peer review. http://www.journalarchive.jst.go.jp/english/jnlabstract_en.php?cdjournal=pjab1977&cdvol=75&noissue=10&startpage=281

Now we just need plenty of independent duplication.

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-28 12:37 am (UTC)
frith: (caribougreen)
From: [personal profile] frith
The abstract you linked to was published in 1999. The experiment linked to by the Weasel King was preformed 5 days ago and to my knowledge not published anywhere apart from the press. Thus, I'm still waiting for peer review and duplication as well as validation that this is in fact fusion. Validation in the form of neutron detection would be promising.

Here is a link similar to that provided by the King but with different commentary: http://physicsworld.com/blog/2008/05/coldfusion_demonstration_a_suc_1.html

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-28 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Pretty much the same as my comments: Cool, if it works.

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-28 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
The abstract was peer review of previous in-lab experiments which produced identical phenomena. This _is_ a duplication of some of the published and peer reviewed experiments. He did not come up with something earth shattering in terms of experimental fusion in front of witnesses without having proven the experiment as possible through peer review.

It might very well not be proper fusion and it needs duplication for certain, but the physics (specifically the anomalous heat production) has been supported by peer review.

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-28 01:17 am (UTC)
frith: (caribougreen)
From: [personal profile] frith
Well, I guess we'll see how this is received at the 14th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science in August. See: http://www.iccf-14.org/

Re: Cheers!

Date: 2008-05-28 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
Hopefully with applause as a half dozen others display experimental logs of the successfully reproduced experiment. A man can dream at least.

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Date: 2008-05-27 06:28 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] itlandm.livejournal.com
Is that really a McFlurry machine? I am not familiar with McFlurry.

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Date: 2008-05-27 08:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] argaive.livejournal.com
Uses palladium, huh? Seems then that Tony Stark's chest gizmo may not be *quite* as unrealistic as first thought. As in perhaps 0.00001% less unrealistic, but still.

:-)

A.

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Date: 2008-05-27 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
*crosses fingers and toes* _IF_ this works, if it does then humanity is in a much better situation.

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Date: 2008-05-28 01:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maskedretriever.livejournal.com
I read an article a while back about "sonofusion," a form of fusion reaction which works by creating micro-scale regions of sun-like temperatures with the help of resonance. The technology is theoretically believable, but has yet to pan out in any meaningful way.

What disturbs me so much about all of these accounts is that they offer no explanation as to how these nuclei are being made to fuse at all. Sonofusion, that was cool. Something calling itself "cold fusion" and not describing the physical principles behind it?

I'll be pointedly not holding my breath.

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Date: 2008-05-28 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sivi-volk.livejournal.com
The thing that always bugged me in high school was that cold fusion, theoretically, seems like it ought to work. Muon-catalyzed fusion does, so why not deuterium-based quantum tunnelling fusion?

I hope we figure this out.

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