And you wonder WHY I think most gun owners shouldn't be trusted with guns?

[theweaselking]

If you want to see if a gun is loaded or not, you should not point it at your face and pull the trigger.

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[flemco.livejournal.com]

If "most" gun owners did that, they wouldn't be the majority for long, you hippie.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

They don't all do *that*.

But the majority of the "cold, dead hands" crowd are dangerously crazy. In the bad ways.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

True, but the last thing they'd do is point a gun at their face.

Literally.

[raie.livejournal.com]

It's true, they'd point it at YOUR face.

My gun isn't pointed at you, it's pointed WITH you.

[lafinjack.livejournal.com]

Like this guy?

[raie.livejournal.com]

Hell yes! Now that is American!

[caerlas.livejournal.com]

I think we should simply deprive Spokane from having firearms and C'ouer D'elaine while we're at it. That's all militia group territory over there.

[paoconnell.livejournal.com]

Cleaning of the gene pool, apparently.

[kindofstrange.livejournal.com]

That's pretty much lesson number 1 of gun ownership. Every group has its idiot minority that doesn't practice common sense.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

I always prefer expressing it as "The gun is loaded. The gun is ALWAYS loaded. The gun with no mag, an open chamber, and the safety on? Is loaded, just lying about it."

I would dislike regulatory "gun control" much more if the gun owners as a whole practiced just a little more of it themselves.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

The gun with no mag, an open chamber, and the safety on? Is loaded, just lying about it."

And this is why Canuckies aren't allowed to have guns. With an "open chamber?" Pretty sure that there gun is disabled, bwah. Not loaded.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

It's a matter of assumptions. The statement is hyperbole, to express the idea that all guns are always to be treated as if loaded, all the time.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

Nah.

[kindofstrange.livejournal.com]

Pretty much. One should never point a gun, regardless of if they believe it to be empty at the time, at anything they're not actively intending to shoot, with the intended consequence being death. It's just common sense when dealing a deadly weapon.

I disagree with the 'as a whole bit'. I'd say as a whole gun owners are a reasonable lot, at least from my experience. It's just the nitwits that make the news, as they're the ones putting new holes in their faces. 'Area man has 10 guns for 50 yrs without any harmful effects' doesn't exactly make the news. 'OMG he has a butt-face from shooting himself in the face' does.

[hel]

Ya know, I really object to being lumped in with an idiot like that. I knew at the age of 6 that you NEVER point a gun at yourself or another person. (I later came to understand the 'unless you want to kill them' caveat.) I probably knew younger than that; but I remember knowing then, because the teenage sons of some friends-of-my-parents almost shot each other because they found a gun in the house and were fucking around. And 6 year old me, upon joining the adults to run and see what the shot was, informed the teenage boys 'wow, that was dumb, even I know never to point a gun at a person!'. So, yeah, just cos some gun owners are idiots does not mean the majority are. It just means you only hear about the minority percent who do stupid shit.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

Now now.

He's Canadian. They don't understand things like this. And it's not their fault.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Canada: More guns, several orders of magnitude less gun violence. The problem has nothing to do with the guns and everything to do with who *has* the guns.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

Oh please. You kids get shotguns and rifles.

On the other hand, we are adult enough to carry handguns. As in small guns for the hand. Because we worry about intruders, instead of moose or polar bears or penguin hordes or whatev the fuck it is you Canucks worry about.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

The problem is, actually, not the people doing dumb shit. It's that the majority of the *representatives* of the sane, safe, gun-owning public[1], defined as the people who do all the talking and the campaigning, are objectively crazy.

Nobody asks you or Jay about your opinion on gun legislation. They ask Charlton Fucking Heston.[2]

But you're right, I've lumped a hell of a lot of people who don't deserve to be there in with the crazies, and I shouldn't have. I apologise.

Let me rephrase that statement: Of the people I see most commonly complaining about their right to bear arms being infringed, I wouldn't trust most of them with an air rifle. I find the problem to be of a "get off my side, you idiots"[3] nature - the people who are loudest about their right to have guns are the people I want having the fewest guns, because said group of people are STUPID and DANGEROUS.

[1]: Of which I am one. This is not the point.

[2]: Well, they used to. Now they've just taken his guns, according to the deal he agreed to.

[3]: Well, not exactly "my side". I'm very much of the opinion that the majority of guns shouldn't exist because they serve no purpose beyond being used on other human beings, and
A) this shouldn't happen
B) self-defense against this should not be necessary.
And while I'm at it I want a pony. My desire for fewer people[4] to be shot has no relevance to reality.

[4]: Well, not "fewer", so much as "different".

[hel]

Now they've just taken his guns, according to the deal he agreed to.
I loled so hard I sprayed cake on my laptop screen and scared the cats. :D
Obliged for the apology, and more or less agreement otherwise.

[flemco.livejournal.com]

Nobody asks you or Jay about your opinion on gun legislation. They ask Charlton Fucking Heston.

Someday I will be president of the NRA. And on that day, Gun Nuts nationwide will weep.

[zdallin.livejournal.com]

Ahhh, Darwin strikes again.

I'm just glad he wasn't pointing it at someone that didn't deserve it.

[burket.livejournal.com]

nah that's darwin. if it wasn't a gun he would have probably offed him self i some sort of weed whacker jumping stunt.

[sparkindarkness.livejournal.com]

I disapprove of this warning label. holy darwin demands we let people figure this out for themselves for the sake of the gene pool

[atlasimpure.livejournal.com]

It's a twofold plus:
1.We now KNOW the gun was loaded.
2.We now have one less incompetent gun owner.