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Date: 2008-07-16 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbankies.livejournal.com
Un-fucking-believable.

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Date: 2008-07-16 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gryphart.livejournal.com
I hope the proponents of this are set on fire. And roasted. Slowly.

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Date: 2008-07-16 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] unknownpoltroon.livejournal.com
Too quick. How bout some cancer?

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Date: 2008-07-16 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dglenn.livejournal.com
Nah, they won't connect the punishment to the sin that way. If they don't understand why they're being punished, it's no good.

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Date: 2008-07-16 04:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elffin.livejournal.com
You're presuming they wish to avoid being punished.

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Date: 2008-07-16 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Cha-CHING.

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Date: 2008-07-16 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elffin.livejournal.com
Buschland, Buschland, Ueber alles!
Ueber alles im Den Welt!
Wenn es stetz zu Gelt und Gott-lust
Kumpanei Zusammenhaelt!
Von der Weisshaus an das Crawford
Von der GOP an Christian-Rechts
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
NeoCons marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kameraden, die Gotloss und Liberale gestoert,
Marschieren im Geist in unseren Reihen mit,
Die Wall-Strasse frei den Pluenderer Boersenmakler.
Die Schuele frei den Christian-Herrschaflichtsmann!
Es schaun aufs Kreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen
Der tag fuer Freiheit und fuer Christ bricht an!

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Date: 2008-07-16 11:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] alienor77310.livejournal.com
You're mixing your anthems!

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Date: 2008-07-16 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elffin.livejournal.com
It follows the format used by the Nazis, with the first stanza of Der Deutschlandlied followed by the Hoerst-Wessel-Lied.

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Date: 2008-07-16 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sterlingspider.livejournal.com
Despite the supposed majority of the country and "my" president believing in tripe like this Roe V Wade still stands, so I continue to hold out some hope.

No.

Date: 2008-07-16 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/
Oh my god.

That bothers me so very, very much.

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Date: 2008-07-16 04:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glitteringlynx.livejournal.com
GAH!!!

This must be stopped! Americans! To arms!! Well.. not literally.. but write your local politician or something to try and stop this. :X

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Date: 2008-07-16 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] interactiveleaf.livejournal.com
Well.. not literally

Why not? What will it take?

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Date: 2008-07-16 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Canceling American Idol.

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Date: 2008-07-16 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elffin.livejournal.com
The U.S. $ (cost of dozens of tea crates dropped in Boston Harbor) question.

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Date: 2008-07-16 04:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eididdy.livejournal.com
Can you get a horde of moose together and come save us? Please? Pretty please?

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Date: 2008-07-16 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] waterspyder.livejournal.com
I don't think 49% of Americans really understand the difference between conception and implantation... and that's just part of the wrong

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Date: 2008-07-16 12:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I'm just waiting for the logical next steps:

1. "Life begins at penetration", so saying "no" after things start is murder.

2. "Life begins at lust", so saying "no" is illegal.

3. "Life begins at menstruation", so not being pregnant is illegal.

At that point, women will have finally taken their proper role, according to the Baptists.

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Date: 2008-07-16 01:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
that's what i first said when i read this, number 3, i said, well then, having your PERIOD is ABORTION, WTF?!?!?!

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Date: 2008-07-16 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-v-lynch.livejournal.com
http://www.365tomorrows.com/07/20/pre-pregnant/

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Date: 2008-07-16 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elffin.livejournal.com
As a medical fact, women are born with all of the eggs they will ever have, so the logical extension is that a child's life begins when the grandmother conceives. I'm certain the Baptists would embrace that medical fact and logical extension, since it allows them so much more guilt leverage over the details of when a woman has sex.

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Date: 2008-07-16 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
And most people won't even notice this...

The war on sex continues - gods it's insane

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Date: 2008-07-16 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaosrah.livejournal.com
WTF!!! i'm posting this in wtf_inc

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Date: 2008-07-16 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
So it does not say anywhere what needs to happen to the proposal for it to be implemented. Any clues?

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Date: 2008-07-16 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] turnberryknkn.livejournal.com
That's actually a difficult question.

The leaked official document can be found here (http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/emailphotos/pdf/HHS-45-CFR.pdf).

The challenge is that, like so many other things (the Doctor's Draft, for example) the proposed regulations are only pseudo-existing so far -- as far as I can tell from the document and related information I've been able to dig up so far, they haven't been offically proposed (for example, in the leaked draft, there's only a "fill-in-the-blank" for the comment period. So it's challenging to actually figure out what the full plan of action will be on a proposed change that hasn't actually been formally proposed yet.

From what I can tell (and lawyers, please jump in), what HHS proposes is not new law, but instead it's interpretation of existing law. In other words, HHS appears to be proposing new procedures that it will expect it's clients (which in this case, are all medical providers and facilities recieving federal funds germane to this situation) to obey. Because it is an internal regulation, rather than law, HHS does not need anyone's approval to carry out said rule changes. There's supposed to be a comment period, but HHS is under no obligation to actually listen to any of those comments. In other words, as I understand, the only thing required for implementation of the new definitions and procedures is for HHS to say so.

Now, Congress could pass new law that explicitly states HHS cannot do what HHS claims existing law allows it to do. Hence the contacting of Congresspeople. Except that any such law would have to go through Bush; or failing that, go through a 2/3rds majority of House and Senate to override. Or, a new administration in January 2009, appointing new leadership at HHS, could reverse these rules by the same authority the current administration and HHS leadership put them in, in the first place.

But to sum up; basically, as I understand, if HHS wants to do this, it can, and nobody can stop them without getting a law passed or changing the leadership at HHS (which means changing the leadership at the White House that appointed the leadership at HHS).

Given Bush actually vetoed an attempt to prevent a 10% cut in funding to health care for the elderly, children, and military families (long story, has to do with Bush wanting to continue subsidies for for-profit insurance companies), and just coming off *that* multi-week fight literally two days ago (link (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/category/18788.html)), well, no rest for the weary, eh?

Sigh.

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