A brief lesson on rhetoric.

[theweaselking]

Batshit crazy person Bill Donohue:

"Just as African Americans would not tolerate the burning of a cross, and Jews would not tolerate the display of swastikas, Catholics will not tolerate the desecration of the Eucharist."

Pop quiz, for the audience: Which one of these is not like the others? Which one of these does not belong?

Oh, that's right, the desecration of the Eucharist is the one the doesn't fit. And do you know why?

Because Catholics *really did* burn crosses to intimidate blacks, and Catholics *really did* wear swastikas while exterminating Jews - but Catholics *invented* the crime of desecration of the Eucharist in the thirteenth century and *lied* about Jews doing it, as an excuse to exterminate Jews.

Hint to Bill Donohue: when listing crimes to make a point, try not to bring up two ones committed *by you* and one *fake one* that you invented as an excuse for genocide.

Next!

Comments

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

Traditionally, the Ku Klux Klan was anti-Catholic. Burning crosses was more of a Protestant thing, as I understand it.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

#1: Burning crosses was not exclusively a KKK thing.
#2: As long as you wanted blacks dead, the lynch mobs were happy to have you.

[scifantasy.livejournal.com]

*shrug*

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Burning crosses was not an exclusively KKK thing, however it is primarily associated with the KKK because they did most of the cross burnings.

Lynch mobs aren't the same cross burning, and on that point you're right. So long as you were white and wanted to kill black people, lynch mobs felt "the more the merrier."

[kadath.livejournal.com]

On the other hand, Protestants hate being lumped in with Catholics, so I try to do it on a regular basis.

[le-trombone.livejournal.com]

Originally true. But the KKK did change their anti-Catholic policies (and announced it) and started allowing Catholics to join. I believe it was during my high school or college years, so I'm guessing in the seventies.

There was an interview with the new inductee on television. She was so proud to be joining.

As far as the lighting up the cross thing (the intent of the burning) goes, yes, it antedates the KKK, but once an evil organization known for murder grabs hold of a symbol, it tends to ruin it for the rest. See a certain sun symbol once common in 1920s and 1930s decorations for an example.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Desecrating the Eucharist was also not used to threaten, intimidate, terrorize, and torture Catholics into remembering their "place" either.

I hate it when ignorant, self-serving people co-opt traumatic historical events for their own personal gain.

[drjon.livejournal.com]

Damned good point.

[elffin.livejournal.com]

Indeed.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Batshit crazy person Ben Stein:

"I don't like the idea of Senator Obama giving his acceptance speech in front of 75,000 wildly cheering people. That is not the way we do things in political parties in the United States of America. . . . Seventy-five thousand people at an outdoor sports palace, well, that's something the Führer would have done."

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Oh fuck that.

I am so tired of people inventing ways to try and make the Obamas scary.

Terrorist fist jabs!

Head rags!

Nazis!

I just wish they'd stop.

[elffin.livejournal.com]

Oh.

That.

FUCK.

[graethorne.livejournal.com]

Yeah. That REALLY frosted my jets...

[faeriemuriel.livejournal.com]

'Cause no other polititian has ever done that ever.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's not like both parties' conventions aren't huge rallies of thousands of the faithful. Obama just happened to opt to do it in an open-air stadium, and that's outside the bounds of polite society.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Shorter Ben Stein:

"You know who else was popular?

HITLER!"

[drjon.livejournal.com]

Catholic false-flagging of "jewish" desecrations notwithstanding, fact remains that Traditional Satanists do in fact use a desecrated Eucharist if they can get one.

Donohue may or may not be batshit crazy, but it's an example that does actually exist.

[kadath.livejournal.com]

Traditional Satanists do in fact use a desecrated Eucharist if they can get one.

Soooo easy to do. Any recovering Catholic can give the 30-second course in how to obtain consecrated wafers and not have a single person notice.

[elffin.livejournal.com]

Indeed. All too easy.

[unknownpoltroon.livejournal.com]

But theyre so tasty with peanut butter.

[sparkindarkness.livejournal.com]

I don't recall anyone at any time using the destruction of any kind of holy food as some kind of death threat. Really I don;t.

Hmmm... were crumbs left in front of churches? Did people willfully nibble biscuits outside of Catholic's homes causing them to cower in fear?


This belittles the vileness of racist and anti-semitic violence. It is disgusting and an insult to all decency

[ironphoenix.livejournal.com]

Christ overcame a far more direct desecration of his body than anything I've heard of anyone doing to a consecrated Host. The Body of Christ is also each one of us, and I see people put up with an awful lot of desecration of each other without this degree of outrage. Getting fetishistic about the little wafer is crappy theology and worse ethics, in my opinion.

[mcpino.livejournal.com]

Plus, eating Jesus is just kinda ooky.

[hollowpoint.livejournal.com]

On nom nom sin.

[le-trombone.livejournal.com]

I recently went to see The Fall. One scene involved a small girl getting "crackers" from a chapel's cabinet. That must be why I saw all those protesters outside the theater.

Oh wait, I didn't.