Isn't she a cutie? This was Sparky's baby picture. Unfortunately, though, she just died at only six years old. :-( I certainly HOPE all dogs go to heaven....
My service dog just died, and the folks at my church told me the same thing: look in the bible, dogs don't get resurrected. At most, some elders told me that the bible was silent on that fact, but that God had not revealed everything to us so... who knows?
Well, I went looking. And there it was, in 1st Corinthians 15:35-42. Someone was asking Jesus, "How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?" He replied that not all flesh is the same flesh, but there is one of mankind, and there is another flesh of cattle/beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish. So also is the resurrection of the dead.
So, fish are resurrected as fish, birds as birds, beasts as beasts, and humans as humans. This makes great sense to me.
Anyway. I'm sure that God is a loving God, and in his infinite wisdom will allow us to see our beloved pets again. If he's powerful enough to resurrect us, surely he'll be able to resurrect our furry/feathered friends. Otherwise, how bereft heaven would be!
There's a footnote in Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett, which talks about the size of heaven as mentioned in the Bible, which is so amazingly huge that the only logical conclusion is that it needs to be that big because your pets go to heaven with you.
Few religions are definite about the size of Heaven, but on the planet Earth the Book of Revelation (ch.XXI, v.16) give it as a cube 12,000 furlongs on a side. This is somewhat less than 500,000,000,000,000,000,000 cubic feet. Even allowing that the Heavenly Host and other essential services take up at least two-thirds of this space, this leaves about one million cubic feet for each human occupant - assuming that every creature that could be called 'human' is allowed in, and that the human race eventually totals a thousand times the number of humans alive up until now. This is such a generous amount of space that it suggests that room has also been provided for some alien races or - a happy thought - that pets are allowed."
It's also worth noting that most "beasts" cannot read human facial expressions. Dogs can, due to significant domestication, which might arguably make them more human than animal.
I just keep thinking of the Twilight Zone episode called "The Hunt", where the old man follows his hunting dog into a swamp and drowns. The next thing they know, they're walking along a road and come to what appears to be heaven. The man at the gate tells the man all about the wonderful things he'll find inside. When the man tries to go through the gate with his dog, the gatekeeper won't let his dog in. He says, "Ain't no dogs allowed in there a'tall... This here is folks' Heaven. There's another place we can put him, though, right up the road. Now you just tie him to the fence there and I'll walk him up for you a little later on."
Well, the old man says, "Well, I thank you very much, but I don't reckon in there is any place for me. Well any place that's too high-falutin' for Rip is too fancy for me. Now what kind of Heaven would it be with nuthin' in it but dog? A dog's got a right to have a man around just the same as a man's got a right to have a dog around. If'en he wants to be anyways happy."
So the old man and the dog continue along the road. Soon, they come to the other gate, where that gatekeeper tells his that the first gate was really hell, and the second gate was heaven. The reason the devil wouldn't let his dog into hell was "They was a'feared Rip would've warned you. And he would of by the time he got a whiff of that brimstone. You see, Mr. Simpson, a man, well, he'll walk right into Hell with both eyes open. But even the devil can't fool a dog!"
The old man continues through the gate into heaven, and Rod Sterling's voice says, "Travelers to unknown regions would be well advised to take along the family dog. He could just save you from entering the wrong gate. At least it happened that way once in a mountainous area of the Twilight Zone."
I really like that episode. Dogs have good sense, and if there is a loving God, then surely he'll allow us our pets to join us. Heck, they've taught us so much already about love! If I could only show my earthly brothers and sisters half the love my dog has taught me, I'd be a saint. :-)
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Date: 2008-08-19 09:51 pm (UTC)And dammit... now I want to draw angellic rocks.
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Date: 2008-08-19 09:50 pm (UTC)*runs off to convert to Catholicism*
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Date: 2008-08-19 09:59 pm (UTC)(And frankly- I don't want any part of a heaven that DOESN'T have dogs!)
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Date: 2008-08-21 02:24 am (UTC)If humans go to heaven, so do animals that are less stupid than us.
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Date: 2008-08-21 02:22 am (UTC)*snuggles guinea pig* ♥
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Date: 2008-08-19 10:01 pm (UTC)For real, man.
Awesome.
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Date: 2008-08-19 10:09 pm (UTC)wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-19 10:35 pm (UTC)Well, I went looking. And there it was, in 1st Corinthians 15:35-42. Someone was asking Jesus, "How are the dead to be raised up? Yes, with what sort of body are they coming?" He replied that not all flesh is the same flesh, but there is one of mankind, and there is another flesh of cattle/beasts, and another flesh of birds, and another of fish. So also is the resurrection of the dead.
So, fish are resurrected as fish, birds as birds, beasts as beasts, and humans as humans. This makes great sense to me.
Anyway. I'm sure that God is a loving God, and in his infinite wisdom will allow us to see our beloved pets again. If he's powerful enough to resurrect us, surely he'll be able to resurrect our furry/feathered friends. Otherwise, how bereft heaven would be!
Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:11 pm (UTC)Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:16 pm (UTC)Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:30 pm (UTC)Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:37 pm (UTC)Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:15 pm (UTC)At least, that's what I'd tell St. Peter.
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Date: 2008-08-20 04:43 pm (UTC)Re: wanna bet?
Date: 2008-08-20 04:58 pm (UTC)Also, it's published in Biology Letters, which makes me wonder about it.
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Date: 2008-08-20 07:08 pm (UTC)Well, the old man says, "Well, I thank you very much, but I don't reckon in there is any place for me. Well any place that's too high-falutin' for Rip is too fancy for me. Now what kind of Heaven would it be with nuthin' in it but dog? A dog's got a right to have a man around just the same as a man's got a right to have a dog around. If'en he wants to be anyways happy."
So the old man and the dog continue along the road. Soon, they come to the other gate, where that gatekeeper tells his that the first gate was really hell, and the second gate was heaven. The reason the devil wouldn't let his dog into hell was "They was a'feared Rip would've warned you. And he would of by the time he got a whiff of that brimstone. You see, Mr. Simpson, a man, well, he'll walk right into Hell with both eyes open. But even the devil can't fool a dog!"
The old man continues through the gate into heaven, and Rod Sterling's voice says, "Travelers to unknown regions would be well advised to take along the family dog. He could just save you from entering the wrong gate. At least it happened that way once in a mountainous area of the Twilight Zone."
I really like that episode. Dogs have good sense, and if there is a loving God, then surely he'll allow us our pets to join us. Heck, they've taught us so much already about love! If I could only show my earthly brothers and sisters half the love my dog has taught me, I'd be a saint. :-)
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Date: 2008-08-19 10:45 pm (UTC)rocks fall
everyone dies
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Date: 2008-08-19 11:14 pm (UTC)Everyone dies.
Rocks fall... or rise.
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Date: 2008-08-20 08:10 am (UTC)Duelling Church Signs! *sings duelling banjos tune*
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Date: 2008-08-22 09:58 am (UTC)Mostly for remaining funny.
Re: (Church) Signs of the Times
Date: 2008-08-23 05:52 am (UTC)HA HA that's great!
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