I strongly doubt it's a coincidence. And I have to say that I am with you on disliking the confederate flag. Not as a piece of history, i guess, but I hate that people still fly this thing, as if the civil war isn't long since over.
but worse, is that these people flying the flag that is a remnant of an attempt to leave the USA and form their own nation are the same ones who will say that obama is unamerican (as if you get to be a senator because you're unamerican).
It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.
It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.
At least the swastika had a life as a symbol of fertility and fortune before the nazis took it. I think I could come up with *better* reasons to fly that. the confederate flag means little else but racism, ignorance, and resolution refutation of reality. Unless you're doing a civil war re-enactment or you're on a movie set, there is no excuse for that.
Right. I don't hate the piece of cloth, if that makes, I hate everything it represents, and everything the people who fly it represent. The confederate flag is not a value-neutral symbol.
And I had never noticed the irony of that before. I'm gonna need to write that down somewhere.
In any non-historical context, yes. The University of Texas having a Confederate flag among the Six Flags over Texas, it's not equivalent, and even that's not the Confederate Battle Flag. But any modern usage of the flag is.
I think you maybe comparing apples and oranges there.. the symbol commonly called the Swastika has had a great many meanings, to many different cultures, before it was kidnapped and subverted.
Whereas the confederate flag- I agree- it has one meaning, the meaning for which is was created, as you state.
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Date: 2008-10-21 07:42 pm (UTC)I hate the confederate flag.
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Date: 2008-10-21 07:44 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 07:46 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 07:54 pm (UTC)Not in every context.
Most contexts I imagine, however.
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Date: 2008-10-21 07:56 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 07:57 pm (UTC)In *every* care, no.
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Date: 2008-10-21 07:59 pm (UTC)Trying to find a good reason to fly a confederate flag is like trying to find a good reason to fly a Nazi swastika. There isn't one.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:01 pm (UTC)but worse, is that these people flying the flag that is a remnant of an attempt to leave the USA and form their own nation are the same ones who will say that obama is unamerican (as if you get to be a senator because you're unamerican).
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:02 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:02 pm (UTC)Single.
Context.
It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:02 pm (UTC)Single.
Context.
It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:04 pm (UTC)And I had never noticed the irony of that before. I'm gonna need to write that down somewhere.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:09 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:12 pm (UTC)I find the use of the confederate emblem in state flags to be just as objectionable by the way.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:13 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:15 pm (UTC)I was thinking of the theme park.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-10-21 08:19 pm (UTC)If you're a monk.
In Tibet.
But that's not the Nazi swastika.
STOP THE PRESSES
Date: 2008-10-21 08:22 pm (UTC)CHILDREN AND WOMEN OF DELICATE CONSTITUTIONS MAY BE EXCUSED FROM THE ROOM BEFORE YOU CONTINUE READING.
THIS ELECTIONS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH RACIAL ISSUES IN AMERICA
WE REPEAT, RACE PLAYS A BIG PART IN THIS ELECTION.
YOU MAY NOW RETURN TO YOUR PRIOR BUSINESS
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:23 pm (UTC)Whereas the confederate flag- I agree- it has one meaning, the meaning for which is was created, as you state.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:29 pm (UTC)...on the roof of an orange '69 Dodge Charger.
If your last name isn't Duke, you don't deserve to own or drive such a car, either.
Otherwise, I'm offended by that particular flag, and so should you be offended.
- James -
P.S. I suppose Confederate Flag toilet paper might be a second place where that image is appropriate, but that's debatable.
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Date: 2008-10-21 08:32 pm (UTC)Cross-burning used to have other meanings too, now it just symbolizes the Klan.