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[theweaselking]

Obama signs in the yards of black people are being replaced by confederate flags, in Virginia.

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[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

It seems significant that the Obama sign they chose to replace with a confederate flag was in the yard of a Black man.

I hate the confederate flag.

[anivair.livejournal.com]

I strongly doubt it's a coincidence. And I have to say that I am with you on disliking the confederate flag. Not as a piece of history, i guess, but I hate that people still fly this thing, as if the civil war isn't long since over.

but worse, is that these people flying the flag that is a remnant of an attempt to leave the USA and form their own nation are the same ones who will say that obama is unamerican (as if you get to be a senator because you're unamerican).

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

Right. I don't hate the piece of cloth, if that makes, I hate everything it represents, and everything the people who fly it represent. The confederate flag is not a value-neutral symbol.

And I had never noticed the irony of that before. I'm gonna need to write that down somewhere.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

makes sense*

[atlasimpure.livejournal.com]

That dichotomy has never made any sense to me.
Hell, most failed rebellions end up with their symbols out-lawed not venerated.

[ronebofh.livejournal.com]

What, not nooses or burning crosses?

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Burning cross, confederate flag, same meaning.

[elffin.livejournal.com]

In this context, yes.

Not in every context.

Most contexts I imagine, however.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Every.
Single.
Context.

It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.

[elffin.livejournal.com]

This gives me a really good idea for a photoshop, though. But I can't do it at work.

[chrisrw109.livejournal.com]

In *this* case, yes.

In *every* care, no.

[theweaselking.livejournal.com]

Every.
Single.
Context.

It's a pro-slavery symbol, and it means that the person displaying it thinks blacks are less than fully human. Period. Full stop. Just as the Nazi swastika has only one meaning, the confederate battle flag has one and only one meaning.

[kafziel.livejournal.com]

In any non-historical context, yes. The University of Texas having a Confederate flag among the Six Flags over Texas, it's not equivalent, and even that's not the Confederate Battle Flag. But any modern usage of the flag is.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_jeremiad/]

I'm gonna have to agree with this.

Trying to find a good reason to fly a confederate flag is like trying to find a good reason to fly a Nazi swastika. There isn't one.

[anivair.livejournal.com]

true, but a burning cross adds that something special. I believe that we call that touch "arson".

[flemco.livejournal.com]

I'm just going to have to jump in here and call bullshit in the extreme.

Good grief, I've been reading this bullshit all afternoon. Maybe these are the things the rest of you non-southerners see when you se a confederate flag, but for the majority of the southerners I know, the CF has absolutely nothing to do with racism.

Nothing. Nada. Squat.

But I have no doubt I'm about to get a big bucket of wankery from you ignorant fucking idiots, including you, Weas, telling me what the people around me - in my neighborhoods, at my work, the people I LIVE WITH EVERY DAY - really mean when they display the CF.

So why am I posting this?

Because maybe, just maybe, I want you to consider the idea that you're dead fucking wrong. You're on the outside of the aquarium trying to tell the fishes what it must be like on the inside.

The CF flag CAN have racist connotations. Nobody I know uses it for such or would use it for such, any more than they'd try to hurl the epithet "mulatto" at a bar fight.

STOP THE PRESSES

[flemco.livejournal.com]

THIS JUST IN

CHILDREN AND WOMEN OF DELICATE CONSTITUTIONS MAY BE EXCUSED FROM THE ROOM BEFORE YOU CONTINUE READING.




THIS ELECTIONS HAS A LOT TO DO WITH RACIAL ISSUES IN AMERICA

WE REPEAT, RACE PLAYS A BIG PART IN THIS ELECTION.

YOU MAY NOW RETURN TO YOUR PRIOR BUSINESS

[drjamez.livejournal.com]

There is only ONE place, and ONE PLACE ONLY, where a Confederate Flag belongs....

...on the roof of an orange '69 Dodge Charger.

If your last name isn't Duke, you don't deserve to own or drive such a car, either.

Otherwise, I'm offended by that particular flag, and so should you be offended.

- James -

P.S. I suppose Confederate Flag toilet paper might be a second place where that image is appropriate, but that's debatable.

and this is why more people need my shirt!

[mckenzee.livejournal.com]

Re: and this is why more people need my shirt!

[dreamshade.livejournal.com]

That. Is awesome.

Re: and this is why more people need my shirt!

[elffin.livejournal.com]

Jesus. I think of something and - invariably - someone has done it before I can get home to do it. Shit.

[iblis-kukl.livejournal.com]

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

But it's not Ohio or Florida, I don't think it qualifies...

[silmaril.livejournal.com]

Also, last week, Texas: Obama/Biden signs set on fire.

[jagash.livejournal.com]

I think it is still _slightly_ better then the brakeline cutting before the Canadian election. The confederate flags are also better symbols of racism then say, burning crosses or nooses.

This is still like saying that second degree burns are still better then third degree burns though.