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In Kentucky, the primary mission of the State Department Of Homeland Security is *religious* in nature - specifically, it's "initial duty" is "stressing the dependence on Almighty God as being vital to the security of the Commonwealth."

Homeland Security is also ordered to "publicise God's benevolent protection in its reports, and it must post a plaque at the entrance to the state Emergency Operations Center with an 88-word statement that begins, 'The safety and security of the Commonwealth cannot be achieved apart from reliance upon Almighty God.'"

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Date: 2008-11-28 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whisperkit.livejournal.com
Doesn't "seperation of church and state" mean anything to these people?

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Date: 2008-11-29 04:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harald387.livejournal.com
Yes. It means there was a serious oversight in the Constitution that should be rectified by any means possible - after all, you can't have a state without God's blessing!

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Date: 2008-11-30 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Just those other, not-ours churches.

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Date: 2008-11-28 11:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] frith
88 word statement. And yet your source is not The Onion.

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Date: 2008-11-28 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The Baptists in Kentucky aren't even *trying* to pretend they're not all Klan any more.

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Date: 2008-11-29 01:28 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fearmeforiampink
Didn't notice that at first. That's all kinds of creepy.
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Date: 2008-11-29 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
No. 88, as in "HH", as in "Heil Hitler".

It's a code word for white supremacists.
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Date: 2008-11-29 01:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You know, I didn't catch the "14 words" thing as a reference. I run into that one much less often.
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Date: 2008-11-30 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
I always hear them together, so there you go.

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Date: 2008-11-28 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merovin.livejournal.com
I can't wrap my head around that even being legal. How ridiculous.

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Date: 2008-11-29 03:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] christinaathena.livejournal.com
I'm speechless. How does anyone think that's okay? I thought "In God We Trust" and "Under God" were bad, but that ...

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Date: 2008-11-29 08:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demongrrrrl.livejournal.com
IF this is true, which I doubt, then please note that it is Kentucky's STATE Department of Homeland Security.

It certainly is not the policy of the Federal Department of Homeland Security.

I work for the DHS, I think I'd know if there was such a policy. And there isn't. If Kentucky has passed that law, then the State's government is fucked up.

But how many people really pay attention to what's going on in their State government? Can you name your local representatives? What their party affiliations are? What their political leanings are?

I didn't think so.

All politics is local.

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Date: 2008-11-29 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
IF this is true,

It is.

which I doubt,

Take it up with the Lexington Herald-Leader.

please note that it is Kentucky's STATE Department of Homeland Security.

As I did, in the headline, as everyone else in the comments has, and as the article is quite clear on.

Who are you trying to argue with on that point, again?

I work for the DHS, I think I'd know if there was such a policy.

I think you wouldn't know about it, given that the policy exists and *you didn't know about it*.

And there isn't.

What part of the article is at all unclear?

Can you name your local representatives? What their party affiliations are? What their political leanings are?

Brigadier General Gordon O'Connor (ret), Conservative Party, somewhere to the right of Attila The Hun, will give blowjobs in exchange for donations. Never met a moneymaking scam he didn't love, and his approval rating drops to ~8% among people who ever dealt with him as a serving officer.

I didn't think so.

Gee, thanks for the vote of confidence.

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Date: 2008-11-29 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] demongrrrrl.livejournal.com
I work for the policy division, Department of Internal Affairs, for Customs & Border Protection. I help write the policy for all of CBP, and I know for a fact that religion isn't even mentioned in any of them.

I did not get the impression that most of the people replying to your post had paid the least bit of attention to the fact that it is the *State's* policy.

Sure, you'll probably say that my impression was wrong. But that's what formed the basis for my post. I know that when people hear/read "Department of Homeland Security," they automatically think of the Federal agency.

Do states even have "Departments of Homeland Security?" Some kind of State security, yes. Homeland? DHS was formed after 9/11 and is a conglomeration of several separate agencies. Most states don't have their own unified system of defense, that's why the U.S. DHS was created.

I just want to make it clear that, while the U.S. DHS is far from perfect, this particular bit of astonishing ignorance is not one of its faults.

Take that as you will. I'm not generally an apologist for the DHS, but I take enough pride in my work that I don't want to see my employers unduly slandered. ("Unduly" being a key word, here.)



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Date: 2008-11-29 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I do do my best to ensure my my slanders are always deserved.

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Date: 2008-11-30 01:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Your impression was wrong.

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Date: 2008-11-29 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gebkivistik.livejournal.com
The fact that no brown people will ever commit an act of terrorism in Kinfucky is proof of God's love for KY.

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