Now that you say that, I realise that it is the truth. I knew it was a recent president. I thought it was Bush. When you said Clinton, it kicked my memory in.
That's one of those cases where I'm 100% certain that the original nano-spark of her idea was positive.... the original nano-spark being I have to show them how bad hatred, prejudice and slavery are/were.... of course the other 99.99999999999% that came after that nano-second? Epic Fail.
This would be vaguely the equivalent of pointing out how nazi genocide was bad, by writing in ink numbers on the forearms of a couple of jewish kids in the class.
I'd like to feel sympathetic for the fact that she her intention was good... but someone unable to follow the logical chain to why it was a horrible idea shouldn't be teaching anyone.
I can't really disagree. As I said I'm inclined to think she's stupid and not malicious at her core. But it isn't a brand of stupid I want teaching kids. Reading the story it smacks of that new-age bs'y 'feel the experience' brain minimization that always makes me want to smack people.
2) I'm pretty sure she was giving the refresher to the other students. Kind of a 'See how it feels to see them tied up' sort of thing. Still stupid.
It has occured to me now that Bush had a home in Preston Hollow before becoming the Governor of Texas, back when he was merely the owner or president of the Texas Rangers Baseball franchise.
Which means he was a resident when those clauses were still on the books.
Preston Hollow is the "status" neighborhood for social conservatives in Dallas. It is close to SMU, has very high-dollar homes with very restrictive HOA agreements, is far enough away from University Park that they wouldn't be mistaken for intellectuals, and is far enough away from Turtle Creek that they wouldn't be mistaken for social liberals or gay people. Also, Turtle Creek only recently became affluent and is therefore nouveau-riche, which is distastefully unlike royalty. It's far enough away from the M streets that they're not confused with the people who merely inherited their large, dilapidating homes with flooded basements*.
That is its' main selling point - other social conservatives living there.
Preston Hollow used to be its' own municipality, until I think the 1970's, when they allowed themselves to be annexed to Dallas. Dallas' City Council has councillors based on geographic districts. They also have a history of demanding that any and all business for a given "district" go through the particular councillor, rather than through the Mayor or through a particular Dallas-level governmental office.
I can count two degrees of separation between myself and the current Governor of Texas, and three to several other Republican Texas bigwigs. The GOP platform particularly decries racism, drawing the particular example of anti-Semitism. This doesn't stop the other policies and platform planks from being racist, nor the officers, nor the Republican rank-and-file.
*(the M streets are where Dallas' elite lived before the 1950's, when white flight kicked in from anti-segregation laws preventing Dallas' rich and powerful from keeping black people from moving into the nearby neighborhoods and arresting them if they were there after dark. It also has a massive flood sewer underneath it. Massive in the way that you could drive a large dump truck through it. Which is decaying. Thus, the flooding.)
If it's only requirement was being a social conservative, there wouldn't be a need to put a "whites only" clause in there.
Nor would they have that whole segregation issue in the public schools that shemale referenced above.
I understand what you're saying, and you obviously know more about the intricacies of Dallas society than me. I just have a hard time believing that the people who live in this community weren't the least bit enticed by the fact that it's all white.
It's a catch-22; Social Conservatives long for a day when the status quo included racial segregation, and therefore most people who have some bit of compassion tend to not be Social Conservatives. The clause no doubt embarrasses them, but probably only because it was publicised, not because it is consonant with their own beliefs. These people have no shame. One of the mansions in Preston Hollow was leased to Mark Cuban as the set of "The Benefactor", for example - and Cuban lives in Preston Hollow himself.
I've been in the room with a particular person who lives in that neighborhood for six hours at one point, and walked away from the experience utterly convinced that this person is a sociopath - just from his interactions and statements over that period of time. His particular profession would bolster my conviction.
The idea that these people think about what happens to others as a result of their actions is ridiculous. In a society that ought to be egalitarian, those who seek or practice to put themselves above others in such an incredible fashion is the mark of a predator.
Also, Harriet Myers was his personal legal counsel at the time that he lived there - I don't know that he personally would have read the HOA, and I don't know if Myers is racist, or just stupid/incompetent/incomprehending of the implications of accepting an HOA deed rider on Bush's behalf that had an existing - even if unenforceable - clause about the ethnicity of residents, or all of the above.
I do, however, doubt that Bush read and understood the HOA rider himself, as it is my impression that he is used to gliding through life.
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Date: 2008-12-07 10:28 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-07 10:38 pm (UTC)Preston Hollow was also ruled against by the supreme court in 2006 for violating Brown v. Board of Education.
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Date: 2008-12-08 12:47 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-07 10:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2008-12-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-07 11:04 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-08 12:06 am (UTC)I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-07 11:04 pm (UTC)And he's only got coverage for 12 years, not lifetime.
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Date: 2008-12-07 11:52 pm (UTC)Re: I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-08 12:43 am (UTC)Re: I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-08 01:05 am (UTC)Bill Clinton is the last president with lifetime protection and Hillary Clinton is the last first lady with lifetime protection.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:29 am (UTC)Re: I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-08 01:30 am (UTC)Re: I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-08 01:56 am (UTC)-- A <3
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Date: 2008-12-08 03:10 am (UTC)Re: I think the Secret Service group owns the house next door
Date: 2008-12-08 04:01 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-07 11:02 pm (UTC)What, it's not gated?
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Date: 2008-12-08 12:46 am (UTC)No, it's not gated. And his house is about 900 feet from the Dallas North Tollway.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=10141+Daria+Place,+dallas+tx&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title
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Date: 2008-12-08 12:07 am (UTC)In other news, did you hear about the teacher who tied up the black students in her class to "make a point" to the white students about slavery?
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Date: 2008-12-08 12:54 am (UTC)This would be vaguely the equivalent of pointing out how nazi genocide was bad, by writing in ink numbers on the forearms of a couple of jewish kids in the class.
I'd like to feel sympathetic for the fact that she her intention was good... but someone unable to follow the logical chain to why it was a horrible idea shouldn't be teaching anyone.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:03 am (UTC)1) Black people are not props for White people.
2) Black people do not need a refresher course on "otherness."
3) Who the fuck ties up their students?
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Date: 2008-12-08 02:23 am (UTC)A Dominatrix?
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Date: 2008-12-08 02:24 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2008-12-08 03:13 pm (UTC)2) I'm pretty sure she was giving the refresher to the other students. Kind of a 'See how it feels to see them tied up' sort of thing. Still stupid.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:31 am (UTC)Which means he was a resident when those clauses were still on the books.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:38 am (UTC)I seriously doubt anyone living there accidentally stumbled into a community which explicitly outlawed people of color.
This was probably their main selling point.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:55 am (UTC)That is its' main selling point - other social conservatives living there.
Preston Hollow used to be its' own municipality, until I think the 1970's, when they allowed themselves to be annexed to Dallas. Dallas' City Council has councillors based on geographic districts. They also have a history of demanding that any and all business for a given "district" go through the particular councillor, rather than through the Mayor or through a particular Dallas-level governmental office.
I can count two degrees of separation between myself and the current Governor of Texas, and three to several other Republican Texas bigwigs. The GOP platform particularly decries racism, drawing the particular example of anti-Semitism. This doesn't stop the other policies and platform planks from being racist, nor the officers, nor the Republican rank-and-file.
*(the M streets are where Dallas' elite lived before the 1950's, when white flight kicked in from anti-segregation laws preventing Dallas' rich and powerful from keeping black people from moving into the nearby neighborhoods and arresting them if they were there after dark. It also has a massive flood sewer underneath it. Massive in the way that you could drive a large dump truck through it. Which is decaying. Thus, the flooding.)
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Date: 2008-12-08 02:24 am (UTC)Nor would they have that whole segregation issue in the public schools that shemale referenced above.
I understand what you're saying, and you obviously know more about the intricacies of Dallas society than me. I just have a hard time believing that the people who live in this community weren't the least bit enticed by the fact that it's all white.
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Date: 2008-12-08 04:00 am (UTC)I've been in the room with a particular person who lives in that neighborhood for six hours at one point, and walked away from the experience utterly convinced that this person is a sociopath - just from his interactions and statements over that period of time. His particular profession would bolster my conviction.
The idea that these people think about what happens to others as a result of their actions is ridiculous. In a society that ought to be egalitarian, those who seek or practice to put themselves above others in such an incredible fashion is the mark of a predator.
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Date: 2008-12-08 01:58 am (UTC)I do, however, doubt that Bush read and understood the HOA rider himself, as it is my impression that he is used to gliding through life.
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Date: 2008-12-08 02:25 am (UTC)(no subject)
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