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Date: 2009-01-29 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekalpha.livejournal.com
Holy crap! A Colonel in charge of a questionably legal military Tribunal (part of an untested set of Presidential directives and legal weaseling that has already taken a beating in the courts) has decided to publicly tell his Commander in Chief to fuck off? On a matter of public policy? With no legal leg to stand on? In the face of a Presidential Order?

If I were Obama, I would have that Colonel dismissed from duty on the spot. I am surprised and annoyed that the judge's commanding officer didn't do it first.

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Date: 2009-01-30 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfun.livejournal.com
With decisions like that he's just three steps from being on the other side at Gitmo.

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Date: 2009-01-30 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekalpha.livejournal.com
I would recommend that he update his resume.

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Date: 2009-01-30 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfun.livejournal.com
Are you allowed to put Human Rights violator on a resume? Does that still get you jobs outside of pre-1943 German?

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Date: 2009-01-30 12:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geekalpha.livejournal.com
Sure. He would probably be in high demand in many parts of the world. I've heard Somalia has lovely beaches, and Sudan... well, Sudan gets lots of sun.

If he wants to work on contract, I don't know if Blackwater will be hiring just now, but I'm sure one of the other merc outfits will need some people with experience in Human Rights violations.

Oh! And I totally missed the apropos opportunity to make a "You can't handle the truth!" joke.

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Date: 2009-01-30 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bitterfun.livejournal.com
OOoooOO!!!! I hear you get a pirate eye patch and a parrot with every new job in Somalia!

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Date: 2009-01-30 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The argument that the prisoner has a right to a speedy trial might hold more weight if the judge had previously given him a right to counsel, a right to see the evidence against him, a right to mount a defense, or a right to civilised treatment while awaiting trial.

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Date: 2009-01-30 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
Or if the prisoner himself hadn't said 'Hey I'm okay with a continuance' :)

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Date: 2009-01-30 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
It's generally expected that a prisoner in Guantanamo Bay will say whatever the prison guards want him to say. Torture does that.

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Date: 2009-01-30 02:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dj-jonny-flash.livejournal.com
I guess the whole "Commander in Chief" thing is a bit vague. If he's a military judge, then trying to justify this under a seperation of powers argument wouldn't seem to be valid.

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Date: 2009-01-30 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gebkivistik.livejournal.com
The whole point of these farcical Military Tribunal charades was to take them OUTSIDE the framework of traditional legal proceeding with those annoying technicalities like due process and so on. This man is insubordinate.

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Date: 2009-01-30 02:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Speedy trial, good excuse.

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Date: 2009-01-30 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anton-p-nym.livejournal.com
I'd be more sympathetic to the "speedy trial" argument if so many of the "trials" at Gitmo hadn't been hanging fire for seven years.

-- Steve's even ignoring the "fair trial", "facing his accusers", and "without cruel and unusual punishment" bits that usually are supposed to go along with an actually principled "law and order" stance.

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