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Sanity 1, crazies 0. But their child may be beyond treatment because it took too long to get to this point.
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Date: 2009-05-16 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
"Ionized water" is a meaningless phrase, just for the record.

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
What? No! Surely it's, like, water... special water... with ions in it! How can water with ions in it not cure cancer?

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
You know what we call "water with ions in it?"

Acid.

(Or "a base," but that's not nearly as punchy, y'know?)

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Date: 2009-05-16 07:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
You don't mean... it has chemicals in it?!?!

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
Someone told me once that water itself is a chemical.

You should probably avoid it.

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Date: 2009-05-16 03:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Will you sign my petition to outlaw the very dangerous dihydrogen oxide? It's known for many deaths via immersion, if people take too much of it can kill them by negatively impacting their blood, and it is encroaching on many of our coastal cities.

Please, sign my petition to outlaw dihydrogen oxide.
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Date: 2009-05-16 05:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Damn, forgot the mon prefix.

I never was good at chemistry.

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Date: 2009-05-16 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
http://www.dhmo.org/

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadath.livejournal.com
What's funny? "Deionized water" actually means something. It's water that has the mineral ions removed, usually with an electric charge not high enough to cause electrolysis. It's used in lab settings basically everywhere.

"Ionized water" snake-oil salesmen, however, are selling non-pH-neutral water (aka acids and bases) that still has all the mineral ions in it--because electrolyzing pure water is expensive. I think the alkalies are the ones they claim antioxidizing properties for. (Lies, of course.)

I know this because the first time I saw the term "ionized water," I thought it was a typo or a copy-editing mistake.

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Date: 2009-05-16 09:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fearmeforiampink
It's got electrolytes! THey're what plants crave!

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Date: 2009-05-16 11:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] catsidhe.livejournal.com
IT'LL MAKE YOU WIN AT THINGS YOU'RE NOT EVEN SUPPOSED TO WIN AT!

LIKE YELLING!

ionised water WILL MAKE YOU WIN! AT! YELLING!

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Date: 2009-05-16 01:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
SING LOUDER OR GRANDMA MIGHT DIE!

NO, YOU SHUT UP! I AM A LAWYER! I USE BIG WORDS!

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Date: 2009-05-16 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejoff.livejournal.com
"n his ruling, Rodenberg noted that at age 13, Daniel can’t read. "
i actually want to kill the parents.

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Date: 2009-05-16 03:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
But it's ok that Daniel can't read.

I mean, he's a white, thirteen year-old medicine man.

HOW COOL IS THAT?!

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Date: 2009-05-17 06:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
That was my first reaction too.

I am holding onto the thin delicate sliver of hope that perhaps there is a medical reason but dear god it's reading. oor kid.

Yeah I saw that too

Date: 2009-05-17 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lightinchains.livejournal.com
and WTF?ed.

I don't think medical neglect is the only neglect that's going on here.

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Date: 2009-05-16 11:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gebkivistik.livejournal.com
Also an asshole, the court-appointed attorney for Daniel, Philip Elbert.

“I feel it’s a blow to families,” he said Friday. “It marginalizes the decisions that parents face every day in regard to their children’s medical care.”

Dickweed, you are not the families' lawyer, nor are you there to advance the right of the parents to make decisions about the child. You are there to advocate what is in the best interest of the child, like, y'know, STAYING ALIVE.

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Date: 2009-05-16 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
Oh gods it makes me scream with rage.

It should be considered child abuse to fill your kid's head with so much idiocy. It really should (they could fill his head with other things - like teaching him how to read may help). Slamming so much ignorance into a child's head is going to cause him all kinds of pain.

“It marginalizes the decisions that parents face every day in regard to their children’s medical care.”

Screw this. I am so sick of the "parental fucking rights" brigade. Y'know what parents? You have no rights, you deserve no rights! You have a freaking DUTY! Because you have a HUMAN BEING - not a toy, not a freaking pet (and even a pet would deserve far better than this!) not a damn tamagotchi - it's a HUMAN BEING that is DEPENDENT ON YOU. You have DUITES to this human - not ownership, not the right to mess it around every which way, not the right to do whatever you feel fit with it - you have a DUTY to do your very best for this child, and if your best is not good enough then you are unfit to be parents - no matter how much you "love" your toy child.

And if your 13 year old can't read (barring medical reasons why he cannot) an is dying from cancer because you're treating him with salads and spring water - and is so damn messed up that he is terrified of the only cure to the illness that is killing him - then you have no only failed but you have failed to an extent that should be criminal

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Date: 2009-05-18 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothpanda.livejournal.com
But if they teach him how to read he might learn things! Other things! He might disagree with them, and start thinking for himself!

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Date: 2009-05-17 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sanityimpaired.livejournal.com
Well, this answers my two questions quite well.

Still, I'm surprised to see how grey area the enforcement of this is. They've completely glossed over what they're going to do if Daniel refuses to participate in treatment as he's clearly stated he will do. I get the impression the judge is hoping that this story will be out of the media by the time it has to be determined whether or not they'll physically restrain him to administer treatment.

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Date: 2009-05-17 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torrain.livejournal.com
...okay, how the *hell* can he not read at age 13? It's *reading*. It's a basic human lifeskill. It's...

Christ. I hope like hell that's not due to failure to educate. Neglect is too weak a word.

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