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Date: 2010-02-08 04:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandchigger.livejournal.com
I imagine he prefers the term "hard interrogation". What an asshat.

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Date: 2010-02-08 04:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sparkindarkness.livejournal.com
but it's not torture - his bosses said so

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Date: 2010-02-08 04:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
Wow.

Just.... wow.

Imagine what they did when she was slow on potty training.

What kind of evaluation fuck-up occurred that he won custody of his daughter 4 weeks ago? Or was this that fast onset kind of batshit fucking insane.

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Date: 2010-02-08 05:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athelind.livejournal.com
... or what must the MOTHER be like?

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Date: 2010-02-08 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
Maybe she favors electro-shock.

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Date: 2010-02-08 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] icedrake.livejournal.com
I'd wondered that too, but I'm fairly sure his lawyer redacted the waterboarding idea from the "preferred disciplinary methods" section of the custody filing.

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Date: 2010-02-08 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ice-hesitant.livejournal.com
That's an excellent use of enhanced education methods.

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Date: 2010-02-08 05:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anivair.livejournal.com
I sure am glad that we're teaching those boys in the military such good solid ideas about right and wrong.

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Date: 2010-02-08 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
No guess the state?

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Date: 2010-02-08 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com
Oh, I know. I just was curious as to the lack of "Guess the State" with this particularly fucked up article.

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Date: 2010-02-08 06:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
... but he's in Washington.

Washington is not Ohio, or Florida.

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Date: 2010-02-08 06:11 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2010-02-08 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kittikattie.livejournal.com
GET HIM OUT OF MY STATE.

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Date: 2010-02-08 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
Man, good thing they don't allow gays in the military. Just think about what he would have done with such an influence on his time in the service.

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Date: 2010-02-08 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
You never see a gay soldier torturing their kids!

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Date: 2010-02-08 07:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] moiread
Gay men are allowed to be around children now? WHO LET THAT HAPPEN?

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Date: 2010-02-08 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pope-guilty.livejournal.com
It's a godless world, man.

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Date: 2010-02-08 07:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ironphoenix.livejournal.com
Un be fucking lievable.

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Date: 2010-02-08 07:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] andrewducker
Judging by the circumstances it looks like he'd gone completely batshit crazy - good to see the US looking after the mental welfare of their soldiers so well.

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Date: 2010-02-08 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
If there's one thing they're good at, it's not that.

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Date: 2010-02-08 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelcorrine.livejournal.com
I love how the commenters are suggesting that he did it because of what horrible experiences he had at war. Not an excuse, assholes.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Well, they are Daily Mail commenters.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] krfsm.livejournal.com
Actually, I have, on the rare occasions I read articles/op-eds in the Daily Fail, found the commenters to be less batshit than the authors...

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Well, they are Daily Mail authors.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
I wonder how long it'll take for "the child's mom was a liberal and messed her up so bad that this was the only way for daddy to fix things"?

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
You feel like watching FreeRepublic, Fox News, and Stormfront for a few hours? You'll find it, I'm sure.

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Date: 2010-02-09 06:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
I assume so, but I have absolutely no desire to try the experiment :-(

On further thought, I suspect it will also turn out to be the fault of Libuhrul Judges somehow.

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Date: 2010-02-16 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Cause combat doesn't break people?

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Date: 2010-02-16 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelcorrine.livejournal.com
Like I said: not an excuse, asshole.

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Date: 2010-02-16 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Cute.

But while I agree it's absolutely no excuse for what he's done. It's pretty clear he's mentally injured in a manner strongly consistent with PTSD and obviously was not getting proper care and follow-up from the organization directly responsible for the harm he suffered.

Not an excuse but definitely the root cause.

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Date: 2010-02-16 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angelcorrine.livejournal.com
The bruising found on the 4 year old girl would lead one to believe this was not an isolated incident. If he found he snapped once then he could have found a safer living situation for his daughter while he underwent some counselling. But he didn't. Instead, he kept the little girl in a situation knowing that he could snap again. Having PTSD is okay. Abusing a child is not.

Furthermore, he waterboarded his child and then admitted that he did it because she is afraid of water. That sounds like he made a conscious decision to use the most psychologically damaging form of abuse that he could think of. Bruises heal. That little girl will need a hell of a lot of counselling to get past what her daddy did to her.

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Date: 2010-02-16 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atlasimpure.livejournal.com
Nothing in the description of her injuries implies that the bruises are pre-existing. In fact, it sounded very consistent with bruises resulting from the incident itself. Of course, child abuse is very rarely a one-time event and there may have been a litany of such but we don't know nor can we assume it with any real validity. Basically, there's no previous "snap" to be traced from the article so there's no reason to think he knowingly and rationally left her in a dangerous situation.

Secondly, it's reported in the article that he did it to her because he was enraged over the alphabet issue. That kind of severely disproportionate anger response is textbook PTSD. Prior to this, he's probably been struggling with growing anger issues, a tendency to get more angry than he should or angry when he normally wouldn't but the truly scary part of mental illness is that one can only detect aberration if one has a baseline to compare it to and in your head, what's in your head IS the baseline.

As for choosing to use her greatest fear as the tool of his "punishment", that just strikes me as further evidence of his enraged state. You're surely not attempting to say he was making calm, rational and logical decisions during this event? He was merely acting with the same kind of cunning that makes us use words with similar harmful accuracy when we lose control of our lesser selves. We aren't smarter when we're enraged we're just better at hurting the perceived source of our anger.

As for the little girl, I truly hope she's young enough and resilient enough to move past this and if possible I'd wish her father be restored to a rational enough state that he will then have to live with the regret of doing such a horrible thing.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Not only is he fucking crazy and nobody that should ever be given custody of any child, ever, he's also pig-ignorant. He didn't waterboard his daughter (which requires you to place the victim on their back and pour water on their face); he just shoved her face into a bowl of water a few times.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The article makes it pretty clear that he propped her body up on the counter, dangled her head off the ledge, and forced it into water deep enough to make her choke.

That's your required elements for "waterboarding", right there - head down wrt rest of body, water provided to run into nose.

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Date: 2010-02-08 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skington.livejournal.com
Ah, my mistake, I missed the "placing her on the kitchen counter" bit.

So he's just fucking crazy and an amazingly bad parent.

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Date: 2010-02-08 11:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
In their defense, crazy people who are unwilling to admit that their jokes have maybe gone too far don't make good parents.

Unfortunately, crazy people who are unwilling to admit that their jokes have maybe gone too far are a privileged class in western society, as long as their "crazy joke gone too far" mentions Christ.

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Date: 2010-02-08 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] missysedai.livejournal.com
I have nothing but incoherent rage.

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Date: 2010-02-09 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jagash.livejournal.com
There are no words. No bloody pun intended.

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