Not long ago, there was a guy pontificating about how unethical it was to observe/film/photograph animals in their most private moments. I'd say that in this case, it keeps the lady mustelid from being bored.
"We have an assumption that humans have some right to privacy, so why do we not assume that for other species, particularly when they are engaging in behaviour that suggests they don't want to be seen?"
Mills said that while it might seem odd to claim animals have a right to privacy, the idea should not be dismissed. "We can never really know if animals are giving consent, but they do often engage in forms of behaviour which suggest they'd rather not encounter humans," he said.
um. running away is generally considered a good-thing™ if you don't want to be eaten by whatever-the-hell-*that*-is ...
though the idea that someone is so ill-informed and so lacking in basic thinking tools that they think a frog gives a rat's arse that the person even exists - let alone cares what they might think about whatever it is the frog is doing right now - would be staggering. except i'm trying to finish a phd at a university. [any congregation of very clever people really does need a bunch of ordinary, sensible folks to herd them and keep them out of the sheep dip.]
methinks the clever people in cultural studies and related 'post-modern' disciplines ought to be saved from the hassles of the day-to-day trauma of existence.
at least, my day would have less of the dumb™ and the stoopid® packed into it.
Animal privacy is nothing - some of the people who write about animal ethics and "animal liberation" (eg, Peter Singer, Matthew Scully) are convinced that the mere existence of carnivorous animals poses a horrible ethical problem to humans.
Singer: "It must be admitted that the existence of carnivorous animals does pose one problem for the ethics of Animal Liberation, and that is whether we should do anything about it"
Scully: [predation is] "the intrinsic evil in nature's design... among the hardest of all things to fathom" and predators that play with their food like cats make him condemn "the level of moral degradation of which animals are capable"
These quotes are pulled from Michael Pollan's "Omnivore's Dilemma" (chapter 17), which is where I learned about just how batshit crazy some of these animal rights philosophers can be.
just can't see how carnivores can possibly be an ethical anything for humans. they're other animals. i'm not ethically responsible for the nature of any other organism - just *can't* be. *sigh*
singer is fun to mess with. though he doesn't like it when he catches on.
Ah hahaha! Animal privacy? As if animals give a damn. Animals are never looking for privacy. they're looking not to be interrupted doing whatever it is they're doing. Dogs would bone on the 50 yard line during the halftime show of the superbowl if they thought nobody would stop them. What a buffoon.
Hmpf. Birds are voyeurs. There are pigeons posted on the phone wires in front of my bedroom window. There are up to 10 magpies in the tree that faces my office window, and I'm sure they're reading porn on my screen over my shoulder. Birds are perverts.
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Date: 2010-06-01 06:01 am (UTC)I think it is a critter from mustelidae family. Sable?
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Date: 2010-06-01 09:28 am (UTC)"We have an assumption that humans have some right to privacy, so why do we not assume that for other species, particularly when they are engaging in behaviour that suggests they don't want to be seen?"
just how prudish is this man, me wonders?
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Date: 2010-06-01 09:30 am (UTC)um. running away is generally considered a good-thing™ if you don't want to be eaten by whatever-the-hell-*that*-is ...
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Date: 2010-06-01 09:38 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-06-01 10:09 am (UTC)though the idea that someone is so ill-informed and so lacking in basic thinking tools that they think a frog gives a rat's arse that the person even exists - let alone cares what they might think about whatever it is the frog is doing right now - would be staggering. except i'm trying to finish a phd at a university. [any congregation of very clever people really does need a bunch of ordinary, sensible folks to herd them and keep them out of the sheep dip.]
methinks the clever people in cultural studies and related 'post-modern' disciplines ought to be saved from the hassles of the day-to-day trauma of existence.
at least, my day would have less of the dumb™ and the stoopid® packed into it.
but i digress :p
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Date: 2010-06-01 12:00 pm (UTC)Singer: "It must be admitted that the existence of carnivorous animals does pose one problem for the ethics of Animal Liberation, and that is whether we should do anything about it"
Scully: [predation is] "the intrinsic evil in nature's design... among the hardest of all things to fathom" and predators that play with their food like cats make him condemn "the level of moral degradation of which animals are capable"
These quotes are pulled from Michael Pollan's "Omnivore's Dilemma" (chapter 17), which is where I learned about just how batshit crazy some of these animal rights philosophers can be.
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Date: 2010-06-01 12:54 pm (UTC)I ordered "Omnivore's Dilemna" a few days ago and look forward to reading it.
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Date: 2010-06-01 02:03 pm (UTC)"We taught a lion to eat tofu!"
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Date: 2010-06-02 11:28 am (UTC)singer is fun to mess with. though he doesn't like it when he catches on.
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Date: 2010-06-01 04:34 pm (UTC)That being said, I think during copulation the animals' attention is on other things.
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