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Date: 2010-12-12 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] graethorne.livejournal.com
Denial and abrogation of personal responsibility are powerful forces.

Damnitte.

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Date: 2010-12-12 02:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
On the CNN Ticker yesterday at the gym, I read the line "Vatican urges the use of discretion in reading the leaked cables."

I first laughed and said "good luck with that." Then I thought of why they would blather like that, and felt sick.

Grargh.

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Date: 2010-12-12 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lookingaround17.livejournal.com
Sad, and sadly not surprising. It's like people have this delsuino that it's fine to treat young people like shit, and then expect them to miraculously turn out great and be capable grownups later--like I just read that one of Madoff's sons apparently killed himself, *with his 2-year-old kid alone in the apartment with him*. Dude, please: great legacy to leave--the story is on ccn.com if you want to look at it.

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Date: 2010-12-12 05:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lookingaround17.livejournal.com
And that was not a foreign attempt at 'delusion', but indeed a scrambled version by mistake--

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Date: 2010-12-12 08:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lafinjack.livejournal.com
Surely this...

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Date: 2010-12-13 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
this is a topic I've had to Red Card with my ex-wife. She, as a lapsed Catholic who [what a surprise] suffered an abusive childhood, cannot understand why I find the man utterly abhorrent. His recent visit to my city caused a disagreement powerful enough that all contact between us had to stop for about 2 weeks.

which made time with my daughter, to say the least, somewhat awkward. She does what Mum does, and of course had to ask why I don't love the Pope...

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Date: 2010-12-13 03:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Catholics pretty much inevitably HAVE to retreat into "I refuse to talk about it", because being Catholic means paying to cover up child rape and to encourage and protect child rapists while they rape more children.

"Being a Catholic" is morally indefensible.

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Date: 2010-12-13 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] undeadbydawn.livejournal.com
oh, it's *me* that refuses to talk about it. She was a full flag-waving cheering visit participant, who watched the TV presentation with great pride and declared he had 'fully redeemed himself' by saying, publicly "uhm... that was probably a bit naughty of us, wunnit?"

my response that Catholic Priests are *still* raping children, and he is still letting them, was met with furious anger

as it was superbly put by an old nursing college, the Catholics are an odd bunch.

While only Catholic by virtue of baptism...

Date: 2010-12-13 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biomekanic.livejournal.com
I have 0 goodwill towards The Popenfurher due to his stance on gluten and hosts.

This whole business of protecting child molesters doesn't surprise me in the list.

As I recall, he was elected to counter the more liberal tendencies of JPII and restore the church to a more othordox bent. Apparently sometimes in the 10th century is their goal.

Re: While only Catholic by virtue of baptism...

Date: 2010-12-13 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
There's apparently a rule that the college of cardinals uses when picking the pope, which translates roughly to "always follow a fat Pope with a thin Pope."

Which roughly means that each new Pope should be noticeably and materially different from the previous one, in terms of age, policy, etc.

In practice, I think following up a reformer who thought the church was mostly obsolete and backwards and needed to be modernised with a literal Nazi who was the head of the inquisition, was maybe not the smartest plan.

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