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Date: 2010-12-14 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jasmine-koran.livejournal.com
HIV. Not AIDS.

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Date: 2010-12-14 03:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snakey.livejournal.com
Beat me to it.

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Date: 2010-12-14 01:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
Other than HIV, not AIDS, I'll also point out that having to be on immune suppressant drugs for the rest of your life so your new immune system isn't rejected is pretty bad.

Never mind that the transplant process itself is not only horrible, and insanely expensive (even on the scale of HIV drugs) but also dangerous. This can't be used to treat AIDS, everything that was taking advantage of a wrecked immune system would just giggle hysterically as the last dregs of your system are shot down.
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Date: 2010-12-14 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
The difference is that you can have HIV and not AIDS. With AIDS, your immune system is basically fucked and the common cold will kill you.

This dude didn't have AIDS. If he'd had AIDS, they probably would have had to get that under control first before attempting this procedure.
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Date: 2010-12-14 11:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
In standard, if not medical English, people say "XX cured my cold" at least as much as they say "XX cured my cold infection", (or common cold infection) if not more so.
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Date: 2010-12-14 11:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] jerril
And to the common man there's "HIV" and "AIDS" - one is largely asymptomatic, but can suddenly turn into the other. The fact that they're both "Infection by HIV" doesn't change English's stubborn refusal to use fancy words like "infection" when an apparent common name will do ;)

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Date: 2010-12-14 11:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I was speaking informally and imprecisely. Other people sometimes have an allergy to imprecise language and get itchy if they don't correct it.

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Date: 2010-12-15 04:11 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
AIDS isn't the only problem with contracting HIV, as AIDS has a very specific symptomology and you can suffer a wide range of immune system defects prior to developing full blown AIDS, any of which could easily kill you, so the difference between AIDS and HIV is very very important.

You could view it as a "vaccine" against AIDS, though it isn't really that, but not a cure.
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Date: 2010-12-15 03:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
It only works on people who have leukemia and a pre-AIDS HIV infections. And it did it by basically replacing the patient's immune system with a new one that isn't susceptible to a HIV infection.

Which means you can't build this into a more generally useful treatment for HIV infections, and it doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know about HIV or the immune system.

It's nice for the people it works for, but quite far from a full blown cure for HIV, nor is it a treatment for AIDS or other HIV caused diseases.

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Date: 2010-12-14 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lookingaround17.livejournal.com
It's good that something helped somebody (and always is, in my opinion), but I guess I heard about it a couple of years back. I haven't heard anything more recent from these doctors or different people with it.

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