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Date: 2010-12-17 03:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
I'll be happy when I can press the "Permanently store all London" button.

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Date: 2010-12-17 03:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
That would be awesome! I have tons of space on my droid, I'd love to have a nice big chunk of maps to go along with my copy of wikipedia!

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Date: 2010-12-17 03:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
You can get 32GB microSD cards now...

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Date: 2010-12-17 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
No,no, I *have* the space. And half an hour ago when I posted that, I didn't know about MapDroyd.

So, Mapdroyd+Wikidroyd = 8GB of space I wasn't using anyway, and now I have detailed maps of North America and a full copy of Wikipedia, available offline, on my phone.

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
Oops, sorry, sometimes sarcasm is the safest assumption! I don't have tons of space or the money for a gigantic microSD card, so I'll have to wait for all these things...

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Date: 2010-12-17 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I have a Galaxy. It came with a 16gb internal card - so spending 8 of that on Wikipedia + Maps Of Everything is kind of not really a problem for me, and I can get an external card if I ever need more space.

And yeah, I can kind of see how I might have sounded sarcastic. No, I was just happy about it.

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Date: 2010-12-17 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
I got Galaxy S myself. When I was purchasing it, the clerk told me about its capabilities, and I just said "put in the biggest card it accepts".

The clerk gave me a puzzled look.

I said "I'm a sysadmin, there's NEVER too much free space for me."

Ah. A lightbulb went on. He got me a 32 GB card.

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Date: 2010-12-17 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Heh. Whereas I'm all "I'm a sysadmin. Storage is something that happens on STORAGE DEVICES."

I totally will run my 16GB out eventually. And when I do, I'll buy an extra 32, or 64. But in the mean time, 16GB *on the phone itself* is plenty for my default workflow.

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Date: 2010-12-17 08:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skiriki.livejournal.com
Sure.

That's why I got my desktop (plus other assorted places) where I backup my shit. :D

At the moment I got some 8 GB of music loaded in, all the essential stuff to distract me with noise, comics in cbz/cbr format, and I've been snapping some pics as well.

If I can get my kitteh Orcus do something funny, maybe filming a snip or two... but, I tend to treat this space as "In Case of Emergency".

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Date: 2010-12-17 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kafziel.livejournal.com
Yeah, but can you get them for less than like $90?

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Date: 2010-12-17 03:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pappy-legba.livejournal.com

Mapdroyd does that. http://www.mapdroyd.com/

I'd prefer if Google proper did it, but it will do for my travels through the NYC subways.

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Date: 2010-12-17 03:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] publius1.livejournal.com
So jealous!

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Date: 2010-12-17 04:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matgb
I get a new phone in, oh, a year. At least Ovi Maps is quite passably OK on Symbian.

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Date: 2010-12-17 04:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
Not just for Droid, for Android, which includes plenty of phones not called Droids, as you surely know. :)

*plays with it forever*

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Huh?

A device running Android is an Android device. Android, "droid" for short[1]. How can a device run Android and not be a droid device?

(Is there a specific "Droid" model of phone out there that I'm not aware of?)


[1]: and infringing on a trademark of Lucasfilm, inc.

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com
Yes, the Motorola Droid aka the Motorola Milestone, which shipped in late 2009.

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
Strictly speaking weaselking is right as all Droid™ ads have a little caption at the start of them that points out that Droid™ is the trademark of lucasarts.

They are also stupid and sexist ads.

I honestly want to know what the hell was the thought behind that naming though "yeah, we're selling a top of the range phone that has to be sold at a higher price than our main competitor in this niche market, what do we call it?"

"How about something proprietary that will require us to pay a licensing fee to use it?"

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
There are tons of phones called Droids (maybe more common in the US?)—Droid, Droid X, Droid Eris, Droid Incredible, Droid this, Droid that. IME, Android generally isn't referred to as Droid, except by people who are confused because of all those phones and their ubiquitous advertisements. And I know a lot of Google people. But YMMV.

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Date: 2010-12-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
Droid™ is the american name of the brand though, elsewhere it has other names, none of which I can remember off the top of my head.

"Droid" is a ™ of lucasartsfilms plc.

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Date: 2010-12-17 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I did not know that!

I've only ever really heard people talking about "Android" and shortening it - locally, for example, people talk about their "Droid" to clarify that it's a smartphone, and not a Crackberry or iPhone, without talking about a specific model beyond that.

(And I don't think I've ever seen an ad for an Android phone in my life. But, then, I go through life with 99% of advertising specifically blocked out because I don't watch live TV, I block ads vigorously on the internet, and I turn off the radio rather than listen to advertising.)

(And I figured that since Lucasarts owns the word "droid" and vigourously defends that trademark, nobody would be dumb enough to use that as an actual product name and pay licensing fees - all official documents would say "Google Android(tm)", in the same way that "Adobe Photoshop(r)" is the only acceptable-to-Adobe way of saying something is photoshopped.)

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Date: 2010-12-17 06:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cacahuate.livejournal.com
Interesting!

Yeah, in my experience in the U.S., the only people who refer to phones as Droids are people who actually have "Droid"-branded phones (or who know they are specifically talking about one) and non-Android-users who say, "Ooh, is that a Droid?" These people invariably have no clue that there is a thing called Android and it's an operating system that runs on many phones, not all of which are called Droids.

I'm like you with ads, except for the roughly one hour a month I feel like watching something actually on TV, and I usually watch the commercials then, just because I find them mesmerizingly bizarre when I'm not used to them. I also ride Metro, which is plastered with ads, and tend to look at them then too, again because they are so weird to me. And I've seen a few extra Droid commercials because they've occasionally been obnoxious enough to be featured as a bad example on the feminist sites I read. ("IPHONE FEMININE THEREFORE BAD. DROID MANLY THEREFORE GOOD!" being the general message.)

As for the trademark, you would think, wouldn't you?

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Date: 2010-12-17 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
since Lucasarts owns the word "droid"

They own it in a particular context - it doesn't stop another company from using the word in a context that's not likely to cause confusion with Lucasarts' products. Same as I can trademark "McDonalds' Electronics" etc.

(Of course, since frivolous lawsuits with no solid foundation in law can still be enough of a menace to bulldoze people, it helps if that other company has enough money to fight frivolous suits.)

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Date: 2010-12-17 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
In the context of "an electronic assistant that does all kinds of communication and memory-intensive work for you", Lucasarts owns "droid".

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Date: 2010-12-18 02:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] fridgepunk.livejournal.com
From 0:27 onward (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w83UQkiuNZQ), watch for the little blurb at the bottom of the ad that says that "DROID" is a trademark of Lucasfilm Ltd.

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Date: 2010-12-18 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lederhosen.livejournal.com
Hm. I'd be vaguely surprised if that was enforceable, unless Lucas has been selling something vaguely comparable; AFAIK the tests boil down to "if somebody else uses the name, would it be likely to mislead customers as to who they're dealing with".

But maybe somebody decided it was easier just to pay the licensing fee than try to fight it.

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Date: 2010-12-17 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ixeian.livejournal.com
Yup, that's very cool. I'm becoming a serious Android fanboy. Now I just hope the Nexus S comes out quickly here in Scandinavia because that looks droolworthy.

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