Explain? If anything, the concept that the meat can be upgraded, emulated and altered defies dualism. The concept that a mindstate can be transferred does not imply that it can exist seperately of any hardware to run it on.
I disagree on all points, and above that I'd say that this statement has little to do with the original statement. The original statement about being "stuck in the meat" is exactly, precisely in line with dualistic ideas about the body being a prison of the mind-- ideas that Decartes stated most clearly, but run back to Saint Augustine and some Stoics before that.
Also, if you're talking about 'transferring' the mindstate then you are implying a distinct separation between body and mind, which is the essence of dualism. The more we learn about the mind, the more we decentralize it-- there is extensive preprocessing between our sensory organs and our conscious mind, our parasympathetic nervous system runs into the homeostasis of the body. It's not as extensive as, say, a a cephelopod's, but anyone who speaks of separating the mind from the body has a childishly simplistic view of the body and a wildly optimistic view of computer advances that will happen in his lifetime (Kurzweil has both).
Considering how many systems on Vostok-1 were designed for the eventuality that being in space would intrinsically send people completely and irrevocably insane, that was really optimistic of them "so on the off chance that you don't go insane but the retrorockets fail to fire, we'll give you food enough to last until your orbit decays naturally and you come back to earth. Obviously if you go insane first you will probably drown in your own spittle long before your orbit decays but anyway..."
And then 7 years later Soyuz-1 smacked into the ground at terminal velocity with the cosmonaut swearing at command & control all the way down.
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Date: 2011-04-13 07:04 pm (UTC)Also, if you're talking about 'transferring' the mindstate then you are implying a distinct separation between body and mind, which is the essence of dualism. The more we learn about the mind, the more we decentralize it-- there is extensive preprocessing between our sensory organs and our conscious mind, our parasympathetic nervous system runs into the homeostasis of the body. It's not as extensive as, say, a a cephelopod's, but anyone who speaks of separating the mind from the body has a childishly simplistic view of the body and a wildly optimistic view of computer advances that will happen in his lifetime (Kurzweil has both).
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Date: 2011-04-12 06:16 pm (UTC)And then 7 years later Soyuz-1 smacked into the ground at terminal velocity with the cosmonaut swearing at command & control all the way down.
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Date: 2011-04-12 07:08 pm (UTC)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeC4nqBB5BM