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Date: 2011-07-07 09:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hwrnmnbsol.livejournal.com
A similar toughie: if you're a primitive tribesman and a monkey takes your picture, stealing your soul in the process, does the monkey own that soul? I think one can make a strong argument for Rupert Murdoch.

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Date: 2011-07-14 06:15 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] drcuriosity
Murdoch makes sense to the primitive animist with an angry sky god. Make a company to harvest souls, then you have a big pyramid to stand in the lake of fire. Simple, really.

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Date: 2011-07-07 10:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mejoff.livejournal.com
http://kevinunderhill.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451bd4469e2014e89a8ed64970d-popup

Live action Dreamworks movie?

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Date: 2011-07-08 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lirion.livejournal.com
Unrelated, however it seems like it should be a Which State (except it's the wrong state for that): Black man jailed for five days for trying to cash Chase check at Chase bank (http://www.king5.com/news/125105599.html)

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Date: 2011-07-08 12:32 pm (UTC)
maelorin: (i should have kept my mouth shut)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
meh. 'intellectual' 'property' law.


i can't see the excitement here. but then, i *am* a lawyer ...

whilst animals have some legal rights, and can benefit *from* property, i'm not aware of any animal (other than human beings) actually being able to *own* property (or hold property rights). thus the rights would go to the 'nearest' 'competent' person (natural or legal) - in this case, the photographer.

[all those millionaire dogs and such are actually beneficiaries in equity of trusts, where the trustee/s are human. trusts separate the 'legal' and 'equitable' titles in property. trustee holds legal title, beneficiary the equitable title.]

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Date: 2011-07-09 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glenn-3.livejournal.com
Just curious: if the monkeys had owners, would the owner of the camera still get the copywrite, or would it go to the owner of the monkeys?

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Date: 2011-07-09 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glenn-3.livejournal.com
Er, that is, copyright.

Jesus.

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Date: 2011-07-10 02:26 am (UTC)
maelorin: (zombies)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
'its ok. i assumed that was a typo :D

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Date: 2011-07-10 02:28 am (UTC)
maelorin: (everything fades)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
and then i went and posted one of my own o.O

'its => 'tis o.o

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Date: 2011-07-10 01:40 am (UTC)
maelorin: (more charismatic than this)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
*shrugs* probably the owner of the camera, unless there was some agreement with the owner of the monkey.

copyright subsists in the 'creator' of a 'work'. decide who that is, and you're done. law still tends to treat animal behaviour a lot like acts of nature: sudden, without intention, but open to the influence of people with respect to causation/severity.

[also, i'm (now) an academic lawyer in australia. my previous practice was in australian criminal and civil litigation, with a side order of military/armed conflict law. my focus these days is largely law regarding privacy, and (national) security, and technology.]

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Date: 2011-07-11 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glenn-3.livejournal.com
Thank you for answering my inane question. :)

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Date: 2011-07-12 10:19 am (UTC)
maelorin: (more charismatic than this)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
^_^

pleasure. (it was less inane than some of my student's exam answers >.<)

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Date: 2011-07-09 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
I didn't say you had to think *very hard* about it.

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Date: 2011-07-10 02:27 am (UTC)
maelorin: (i should have kept my mouth shut)
From: [personal profile] maelorin
indeed :)

i tend to get a little pissy with all the unwarranted attention on 'ip' these days, tis all.

mind you, ip would be less 'exciting' if american ip law didn't insist that ip owners litigate any and every possible incursion on their 'rights'...

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