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Am commenting on A Dance With Dragons. There are spoilers in the comments. Beware.

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Date: 2011-07-18 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
My question continues to be whether that's actually the true story. Or the Stark spin. Not that it's the most important question giving resultant events. Since Ghost Jon won't be marrying anyone.

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Given the presence of a red priest at Castle Black, I suspect Jon may receive the Dondarrion Cure even if he *is* dead. But I'm also not counting anyone as dead from a cliffhanger "injured and it all goes black" chapter, no matter how hopeless it seems, because Martin loves those. Arya's had three, I think?

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleary.livejournal.com
At least. And then there was Brienne, who gave new meaning to the phrase "left hanging."

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
Yeah, NO KIDDING she looks "at least ten years older" - she's been noosed since 2005!

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
I think he's at least temporarily dead. But whether it's the Warg thing, or the Mellisandre thing it does, essentially, write him out of the command structure of the Night Watch don't ya think?

Admittedly it gives him the freedom to do what he wants since death absolves all oaths, but I'm not sure where that leaves things with the Watch other than a new war with the Wildlings who now have forts on the wall.

So.... messy. And I'd have hoped we were going to start cleaning up a bit sometime soon.

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com
"He was dead!"
"He's not dead. He wasn't dead, just NEARLY dead, and would have died without magic. The red witch fixed him, with magic. He's still in charge. NEXT?"

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Date: 2011-07-18 03:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chrisrw109.livejournal.com
Yeah but then they'd have to kill him all over again for wanting to break his oath.... just very confusing business with all the knives and fire and what not.

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Date: 2011-07-18 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silmaril.livejournal.com
Given the presence of a red priest at Castle Black, I suspect Jon may receive the Dondarrion Cure even if he *is* dead.

I very, very strongly suspect that, too, and in that case, further RAEG.

(I. Hate. Melisandre. And all she represents, completely sincerely as her PoV demonstrated.)

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